Erica Flickinger is Amanda’s cousin who coined the term, “The Clean-Up Crew” to describe her and Amanda’s roles in a long lineage of generational trauma. In this conversation she and Amanda open up about codependency, protecting parents who couldn’t protect themselves, and the challenges of being in a dysfunctional family – especially when that family is then the subject of a documentary.

This episode was recorded before the release of Great Photo, Lovely Life and contains spoilers.