Welcome back to the Off the Tools Podcast – where real trades talk real business. In this episode, I’m joined by a man who’s gone from burnout and 14-hour days to building a thriving, systemised heating business.

Andy Jones, founder of Twin Sun Heating, finally joins me after two years of back and forth (life gets in the way, doesn’t it?). We unpack his full journey – from flipping a coin to choose plumbing over electrics, to building a six-figure business driven by service plans, not just callouts.

We talk about the awkward early days, pricing with purpose, limiting beliefs, systems, software, reviews, burnout, and building a business on purpose – not just creating yourself another hard job.

If you're stuck in the weeds of the day-to-day, this episode will give you hope, clarity, and a few well-earned laughs.

💬 Language warning: we're just real people having a real chat – so if you’re offended by the odd swear word, you might wanna skip. Or maybe you need this more than anyone. 😄