Kinsey Phifer, doula and the author of "Variations of Normal: The Labors of Love", and Michelle explore the complex feelings and emotions that having a breech baby can bring. They discuss the barriers to breech birth access, the difficulties that come with finding a VBAC friendly hospital- especially when the baby is breech, the unhelpful things people say and how damaging they can be, and why it isn’t as simple as doing "all the right things to turn a breech baby" or "just give birth at home".

“Yes, exactly. And I can tell you I've heard that, so often. [Healthy mom. Healthy baby. That is all that matters.] And it's really invalidating. It makes people not want to share their experiences. Which is unfortunate because so many of us feel very similarly. And I think, in order to process these experiences and start our journey to healing, we have to start by talking about it.”—Kinsey Phifer

Kinsey Phifer is the author of “Variations of Normal-The Labors of Love”. She is a certified birth and bereavement doula and has a passion for VBAC, breech babies, and parents' rights during childbirth. Kinsey lives in a small town in Iowa with her husband and two children.

Connect with Kinsey at Breech Baby Stories on Instagram and Facebook
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Connect with Michelle at birtheaseservices.com, Facebook @ The Birth Ease Podcast, and Instagram @birtheasemichellesmith