DiscoverThe Joe Rogan Experience#1393 - James Wilks & Chris Kresser - The Game Changers Debate
#1393 - James Wilks & Chris Kresser - The Game Changers Debate

#1393 - James Wilks & Chris Kresser - The Game Changers Debate

Update: 2019-12-05334
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James Wilks is a retired mixed martial artist. He was the winner of Spike TV's The Ultimate Fighter: United States vs. United Kingdom. He is also a producer of the documentary "The Game Changers" on Netflix. Chris Kresser, M.S., L.Ac is a globally recognized leader in the fields of ancestral health, Paleo nutrition, and functional and integrative medicine. Link to notes from this podcast by Chris Kresser: http://kresser.co/gamechangers
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Pe M

Wilks killed it 🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽 Wish everyone didn’t interrupt each other so much. Joe should have moderated better.

Jan 28th
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Stirling Burrows

James Wilks is an F witt. He's arguing semantics. He's got zero actual arguement to support his argument of meat being evil as part of a balanced diet. Hes a bully, who commits the logical fallacy of appeal to authority and descends into ad hominem. He's trying to score points wins some battles but loses the war.

Jan 27th
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Joseph Evans

there is a lesson to be learned that one should NEVER bring emotions into a debate. I think James comes off the way he does because he is emotionally passionate about whole food plant based eating.

Jan 26th
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Richard B

James did alright but my biggest problem was James reiterating the fact Chris didn't go with the "general consensus". if we kept with the general consensus we would still be blood letting every time we get sick

Jan 21st
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James Rieth

I had a looking question that wasn't brought up. Is the b12 given to the animals for our benefit, or because the animals need the b12 and aren't getting it from their diet. If the industry wants us to buy vitamins, why supplement the food for us? If it produces healthier and quantitatively more meat, that suits the meat budget for sure. Just a thought... In general, proving that someone was wrong in small details doesn't make them wrong in the big stuff, but it does discredit someone in a debate. It was frustrating to listen to an adult (arguably both adults) not answer direct questions consistently.

Jan 17th
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Jesse Golem

I can't listen to James, all the "let me finish my point" after point, after point, after point then not letting Chris talk and interrupting him repeatedly. I wrote him off as soon as he didn't understand the difference between the 71% 13% 16% bundling results of the yogurt or what ever. 20 minutes of wasted time.

Jan 15th
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Brayan Alguera Jimenez

I didnt learn much. cause Christ is always interrupting.

Jan 13th
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Ryland Proud

A debate on nutrition between 2 people who confessed they aren't nutrition experts.

Jan 12th
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Tim Lloyd

I can't get through it... it's clear that the focus James had coming into this was just to discredit Chris and deflect by bogging the debate in semantics.

Jan 8th
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Down Town Paddy Browne

3 hrs in and the only thing that has been proven is vegans are annoying and have the ability to talk in circles and you don't know shit if you can't read a tree chart

Jan 8th
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Matt Vasey

wow, this James is a collosal douche

Jan 8th
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Punkfake

James is such an asshole that it takes away from how smart he is and how valid some of his rebuttals are, it's unfortunate. Going after a guy and saying he isn't even qualified to read a study is just a gross tactic and only magnifies the fact that James is making a religious and personal argument. Where at least Chris was able to admit to his mistakes and blind spots, James thinks he knows everything. Also, not the first time in an argument that Joe has sided with the bully. Kind of weird.

Jan 4th
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Steven Davis

Personally, I was really looking forward to this episode, but after listening to it I'm left being irritated, irritated enough to spend my time writing this review/comment. Although Wilks did successfully address several of Kresser's "debunking points", he refused to address the main question of whether or not a diet including meat and dairy actually results in major health conditions such as cancer, heart disease, inflammation, etc.... Wilks started off by forcing Kresser to "admit" that he's not an expert in diet, research, and even scientific comprehension before he would continue onto addressing his checklist of points. It seemed that he spent the most of the time discrediting Kresser rather than the discrediting his debunks, except during the outrageously long B12 segment. Wilks admittedly overspoke throughout the entire episode. Kresser was unable to defend any of his initial claims as Wilks controlled the debate by verbally overwhelming Kresser, repeatedly forcing admissions of inferiority in order to continue onto his semantically less relevant points. Wilks quickly turned the debate into a personal attack to defend his documentary, rather than remaining professional and systematically refuting Kresser's debunks. Sadly, this debate went nowhere and was a massive disappointment.

Jan 2nd
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Madeline Snedker

James seems so arrogant. you can have a discussion and defend yourself without being so utterly rude and dismissive

Dec 27th
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dre king

this dude Wilks is garbage all he did was over talk Chris in the most rude way possible and discredit him and defend his garbage film instead of laying out the facts on something else other than b12

Dec 27th
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Jason Kubica

Hollllyyy shitt 😟this is one of the most annoying things I’ve ever heard 🤪🔫

Dec 27th
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No Name

I can't fucking stand James. He debates like an 11 year old and is clearly selling an unhealthy lie to get rich.

Dec 24th
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Benjamin Weinstein

Meat tastes better though

Dec 21st
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Meeister Sean

2nd try and still cant listen to this argumentative BS. Just STFU and eat some goddamn food. Meat, not meat... If you live long enough you're gonna die of either cancer or organ failure. Just enjoy your life and quit bitching

Dec 20th
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E J

I love steak ❤️

Dec 19th
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#1393 - James Wilks & Chris Kresser - The Game Changers Debate

#1393 - James Wilks & Chris Kresser - The Game Changers Debate