What if resilience wasn’t something you build alone, but something we practice together? If you’ve ever noticed the way some well-intentioned leadership skills fall flat in high-stakes moments, this conversation is for you.

In this conversation, I sit down with Tamás Hovanyecz — a leadership guide, facilitator, and highliner (yep, he willingly walks across ropes suspended hundreds of meters in the air) — to talk about how our nervous systems and relational patterns shape our capacity to lead, respond, and connect when it matters most.

We explore:

* Why most leadership development quietly collapses the moment pressure hits

* What “relational intelligence” looks like in a room full of Type-A world-changers

* The cost of staying in protection mode — for you, your team, and your nervous system

* How systems mirror survival states (yes, your org chart might be dissociating)

* What actually helps teams innovate during crisis (spoiler: it’s not grit)

* How a slackline can expose your fear and your healing in 10 seconds flat

Tamás also shares a story about what happens when you ask ambitious humans to slow down and just relate. (Spoiler: some tried to form a rebellion. Others had a breakthrough.)

💬 “Shifting how we interact and relate with each other is inherently changing the system.” — Tamás Hovanyecz

The real shift doesn’t happen in your head. It happens in the space between us. As always, this show is about coming back into relationship — with your body, your people, your work. Not in theory. In practice.

Mentioned in the episode:

* Inner Mastery Lab: innermasterylab.co

* WHO Cards: whocards.cc

* Find Tamas on LinkedIn

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