In this two-part series, BerlinsideOut talks about Germany’s relationship with Aaron’s (other) home country of Canada, its potential role in helping to provide Germany and the rest of the democratic team with critical resources, whether both countries are underpricing Russian and Chinese threats, and how to leverage another transatlantic relationship amidst uncertain political times in the US.

In part two, Ben and Aaron pick up core BerlinsideOut themes with Anessa Kimball and Stephanie Carvin. They discuss how Germany and Canada both depend heavily on liberal ordering but, thanks to a strategic deficit in both countries, are currently not stepping up to take responsibility for this. Together the experts identify obstacles but also concrete steps for how to improve this when it comes to German and Canadian assessments of Russian military threats, NATO spending, how to make more of the German-Canadian relationship – and how Canadian leadership on seizing Russian assets can serve as an example to become more proactive.

Ask us your burning questions from BerlinsideOut’s Season first season!

Guests:

• Anessa Kimball, Full Professor of International Relations at Universite Laval, Centre on International Security, co-Director of Canadian Defence and Security Network (@ProfKimball)


• Stephanie Carvin, Associate Professor of International Affairs, Carleton University (@StephanieCarvin)

Resources:

• Is Canada Ready to Pay a “National Security Premium”?, Aaron Gasch Burnett, Open Canada


• Rethinking NATO’s 2% defence spending target: 2023 enlargement, Canadian defence needs, cooperative bargaining models & institutional outcomes, Anessa Kimball, Briefing Paper #1, Series: Canada, NATO, & Burden Sharing, NATO Association of Canada


• Current and Future Challenges to Canada-US Defense Cooperation – North America, the Transatlantic, and beyond, Anessa Kimball, Politique américaine


• Stand on Guard: Reassessing Threats to Canada’s National Security, Stephanie Carvin, University of Toronto Press (2021)


• Chrystia Freeland Must Turn Vision Into Reality, Stephanie Carvin, The Globe and Mail


• An Audacious Vision of Canada’s Place in a Changing World, Stephanie Carvin, Macleans


• Deliberative institutional design & U.S. defense and security agreements: Comparing Canadian agreements to those with partners and competitors, Anessa Kimball Journal of Transatlantic Studies, 20(2): 230-250


• Beyond 2% - NATO partners, institutions & burden management: Concepts, risks & models, Anessa Kimball, Palgrave-Macmillan, Series: Canada & International Affairs


• Germany Needs a Strategy – Grand and Democratic, Benjamin Tallis, Florence Schimmel, Roderick Parkes, Leonie Stamm, Jacob Ross, Jan Stoeckmann, Julian Stoeckle, Jannik Hartmann, Niklas Hintermayer, Aylin Matle & Nicolas Teterchen, DGAP Grand Strategy Group, IPQ


• Opinion: Canada's days of freeloading on NATO allies must end, Balkan Devlen and Jonathan Berkshire Miller

This podcast is an original production of the German Council on Foreign Relations (DGAP). It was created as part of DGAP's Action Group Zeitenwende.

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