Kevin Coyle, currently working with Brad Frost and friends at Big Medium, is an incredible all-star professional in tech currently focusing on frontend. While we cover the professionally interesting work of building a Design System within the giant that is Pfizer, we also cover some lighter topics such as AI stealing jobs, Blu-ray is ancient, and Apple's Vision Pro.

What we discussed

0:00:00 —Introduction

0:00:49 —Welcome Kevin Coyle

0:02:29 —How did you get into Design Systems? Where did it all start?

0:06:39 —What it's like working on Helix, Pfizer's Design System

0:09:20 —Overcoming resistance to adopting a system

0:13:28 —Origins and intentions behind DatePickers and Hero sections

0:16:42 —How to approach each new client

0:19:17 —Thorny experiences of open source development

0:20:39 —Where does an "open mindset" come from?

0:23:00 —"Design systems are simply a collection of decisions"

0:24:34 —How strict to be following your system guidelines?

0:29:54 —What's the future of Design Systems, and does AI affect it?

0:37:51 —How does AI affect the incoming workforce's skillsets?

0:43:56 —Gen Z don't know what a "folder" or "directory" is

0:45:55 —CD's, cassette tapes, and ownership of media

0:52:16 —Kevin's sci-fi novel

0:52:59 —AR, Apple Vision Pro, and the beauty of spatial design

1:00:30 —3-dimensional Design Systems, and abstracting physical actions

1:02:24 —ChatGPT coaching Kevin on writing his sci-fi novel

1:06:25 —Last words of wisdom from Kevin

Full show notes, resources, and the blurb to Kevin's book can be viewed at: https://chk.fyi/KuUo2T