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166. John Swinney: Identity, Independence, and The Future of Scotland

166. John Swinney: Identity, Independence, and The Future of Scotland

Update: 2025-12-15
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What is the future of the Scottish independence movement? How does the SNP rebuild trust and support for independence after a series of bruising scandals? Why did the Scottish First Minister feel disrespected by a series of Conservative Prime Ministers? 




Alastair and Rory are joined by Scottish First Minister John Swinney to answer all this and more. 




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166. John Swinney: Identity, Independence, and The Future of Scotland

166. John Swinney: Identity, Independence, and The Future of Scotland

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