191 | The #1 Factor That Determines Your Church's Future Growth
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What if the biggest growth barrier in your church… is your leadership pipeline?
In this week’s Fly on the Wall Podcast, I sit down with Pastor Darren from Oklahoma to talk about the difference between discipleship and leadership development, the qualities that set apart high-capacity leaders, and how to stop leaving leadership to chance.
Here’s what we get into in Episode 191:
Why “just being discipled” isn’t enough
What Jesus modeled in leadership circles—and how to do the same
The exact traits we look for when apprenticing potential leaders
How to identify grit, hunger, and trajectory
Why high-level leaders change everything
If your dream is to multiply your reach, expand your impact, and develop leaders who build leaders, this episode is a must.
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Fly on the Wall Podcast, presented by Church Boom, takes pastors into a live coaching session with Chris Sonksen, CEO & Founder of Church Boom. Each episode features a pastor, just like you, as they share the challenges they face and get practical advice on how to overcome them.



