New manager, same old Norwich City. The On The Ball podcast is on hand again to react to a shoddy Canaries display, with their biggest defeat of the season coming at Birmingham City at the weekend — a 4-1 defeat in new boss Philippe Clement's first game. Good job the new manager bounce is a myth.

Ryan Livermore, Dan Brigham, Zoe Morgan and Steve Sanders discuss Duffy's dallying, the hope of Kvistgaarden, and try to unearth a light at the end of the tunnel, courtesy of what our new manager might bring. And then there's Better-Late-Than-Never-Ben's press ganging. "It's on me" etc.

Plus, an absolutely mammoth game on Tuesday, Kenny from the halfway line, what's the most creative vegetable, proof that the panel knows nothing about construction, and your best Philippe Clement pun features (none of which were used for the title of this episode, really sorry guys).

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