In this episode, Lee and I chat with Sage (they/them) at their lovely plant-filled house in Ascot Vale, and get to meet their super sweet dalmation.

Sage speaks to us about growing up in Lebanon, going to an all-girls Catholic private school in Melbourne, the pressures to conform to strict gender norms, and working for Australia's largest youth-driven LGBTIQA+ organization (minus 18). They also talk about experiencing being trans as a gift, undergoing second puberty at the age of 27, their love of camping and being outdoors, and their connection to place.