DiscoverHold or Fold25. 'Debts are getting bigger, bets are getting bigger, I'm completely losing control' | Mark from Whysup
25. 'Debts are getting bigger, bets are getting bigger, I'm completely losing control' | Mark from Whysup

25. 'Debts are getting bigger, bets are getting bigger, I'm completely losing control' | Mark from Whysup

Update: 2025-11-18
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In this powerful episode, we sit down with Mark Murray, co-founder of the mental health and addiction charity Whysup, to unpack a life that could’ve gone very differently. 


As a teenager, Mark was on the books at Manchester City, a promising football career ahead but everything shifted when he became a father at just 16. To cope with the pressure, Mark turned to gambling. What began as a way out soon spiralled into a 13-year addiction that would leave him drowning in debt, facing threats, and entangled with dangerous people. 


Mark found help at Gordon Moody, where he rebuilt his life. It’s here that the spark for Whysup was born: using lived experience as the foundation to drive change


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25. 'Debts are getting bigger, bets are getting bigger, I'm completely losing control' | Mark from Whysup

25. 'Debts are getting bigger, bets are getting bigger, I'm completely losing control' | Mark from Whysup