DiscoverPublic Figures287: Nateland | Ep #287 The Penultimate Episode
287: Nateland | Ep #287 The Penultimate Episode

287: Nateland | Ep #287 The Penultimate Episode

Update: 2026-01-14
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This podcast episode features a diverse discussion, beginning with financial tools like Rocket Money and the meaning of "penultimate." The hosts delve into baseball, discussing home runs and hypothetical rule changes, alongside personal anecdotes about playing the sport. They then transition to movie-related topics, debating the definition of a "cameo," reacting to movie trailers, and discussing the struggles of modern movie theaters, including the economics of concessions and the evolution of viewing habits. The conversation also touches on the art of movie poster design, the challenges of finding family-friendly content, and the comfort and etiquette of reclining theater seats. They recall pre-internet methods of discovering movies and the impact of services like Moviephone. The episode further explores the rise of post-credit scenes, the legacy of iconic movie poster artist Drew Struzan, and the creative process behind movie titles and posters, using "The Breadwinner" as an example. The influence of Marvel on the film industry, the challenges of early filmmaking, and the concept of "experiential" movie theaters are also discussed. Finally, the hosts touch upon viewing order strategies like the "Machete Order" for film series, the impact of spoilers, and conclude with updates on their comedy tours across America.

Outlines

00:00:00
Financial Tools and Podcast Logistics

Introduction to Rocket Money for financial confidence and healthy money habits. The hosts welcome listeners to the Nateland podcast, noting it's their last recording in their current room and discussing episode numbering.

00:06:24
Defining Entertainment Roles and Future Plans

The hosts discuss the definition of a "cameo" in entertainment and react to movie trailers, expressing excitement for upcoming content.

00:10:11
Baseball Anecdotes and Hypothetical Scenarios

The conversation delves into the thrill of hitting a home run, explores hypothetical rule changes in baseball, and shares personal baseball challenges and pitching anecdotes. A donut-eating challenge bet is proposed.

00:17:32
Sponsor Spotlight and Sports Debates

A sponsor message for Square for Business is featured. The hosts discuss a bowl game and debate athletic capabilities in a hypothetical race.

00:21:13
New Year's Travels and Travel Mishaps

The hosts share their New Year's travels and comedy gigs, including a stressful airport hotel booking mix-up and subsequent travel woes.

00:24:34
Illness, Travel Cancellations, and Podcast Evolution

A host recounts recovering from a severe flu that led to canceled shows. Listener comments are read, appreciating the introduction of other comedians and discussing the podcast's evolution.

00:27:19
The Genesis and Growth of the Nateland Podcast

Nate explains the podcast's origin during COVID-19 as a way to stay funny, emphasizing its growth and collaborative effort. Future projects and listener contributions are discussed, including humorous suggestions for Nate's role in a theme park.

00:29:54
Listener Feedback and Ride Experiences

Listener comments prompt discussions on specific jokes, theme park safety videos, and personal experiences with rides, including claustrophobia. A video clip of a baseball catch attempt is shown.

00:33:31
Listener Comments on Podcast Presence and Meal Delivery

Listener comments humorously address Aaron's role and Nate's continued podcast presence. A sponsor spotlight for Factor meal delivery is featured.

00:37:13
Listener Stories and Podcast Appreciation

Listeners share stories about gym membership cancellations and custom t-shirts. They also congratulate Nate on new endeavors and express appreciation for the podcast.

00:41:50
Movie Theaters: Sneaking In and Economic Challenges

Listeners share stories about sneaking into movie theaters, leading to a discussion on the practice and the current state of movie theaters, including superhero fatigue and declining attendance.

00:50:03
Viewing Habits, Communal Experiences, and Theatrical Releases

The discussion covers the rise and fall of MoviePass, movie theater economics, the evolution of viewing habits with DVRs and closed captions, and the value of the communal movie experience. The trend of releasing streaming content in theaters is also explored.

00:58:35
Memorable Screenings and Movie Rating Systems

The hosts recall memorable moviegoing experiences and discuss the evolution of movie rating systems, including childhood viewings of inappropriate films.

01:03:57
Content Appropriateness and Theater Comforts

The challenges of finding appropriate family content are discussed, along with the comfort and occasional annoyance of reclining theater seats and theater seating etiquette.

01:10:02
Film Analysis and Pre-Internet Movie Discovery

The movie "Simon Birch" and Jim Carrey's peak career are discussed. The hosts recall pre-internet methods of discovering movies, including calling theaters and checking newspapers.

01:14:33
Pre-Cell Phone Theater Logistics and Smartphone Use

The challenges of saving seats and coordinating with friends in dark theaters before cell phones are recalled. The ubiquity and frequent use of smartphone flashlights are also discussed.

01:17:02
Optimizing Movie Viewing and Post-Credit Scenes

Websites for optimizing bathroom breaks and discovering post-credit scenes are mentioned. The evolution and purpose of post-credit scenes, popularized by Marvel, are discussed.

01:20:05
The Art of Movie Posters and Thematic Resonance

The passing of iconic movie poster artist Drew Struzan is noted. The art of movie poster design is discussed, focusing on conveying a film's theme, with the process of designing "The Breadwinner" poster detailed.

01:23:19
Film Titles and Trailer Effectiveness

The thematic resonance of "The Breadwinner" is explored, along with the origin of taglines and the process of naming films, including historical title changes. The decline in the effectiveness and appeal of movie trailers is also noted.

01:27:06
Film Industry Impact and Filmmaking Challenges

The impact of Marvel on the film industry is discussed. The record for the most takes for a single scene and challenges in early filmmaking and actor struggles on set are explored.

01:30:12
Experiential Theaters and Vintage Screenings

The concept of experiential movie theaters offering unique screenings and the appeal of vintage film screenings are discussed. The enduring popularity of "Die Hard" is mentioned.

01:31:42
Live Music Accompaniment and Awards Season

Experiences of watching films with live music accompaniment are highlighted. The discussion touches on awards season and the introduction of a "Best Podcast" category.

01:34:35
Viewing Order Strategies and Spoiler Impact

The "Machete Order" for watching Star Wars and Harry Potter is explained as a method to preserve plot twists. The negative impact of spoilers is illustrated with an anecdote.

01:38:41
Touring America and Championship Wins

A comedian discusses touring across America, marking Montana as the last state for them to perform in. Montana State's championship win is mentioned, with the game held at Vanderbilt Stadium.

01:39:18
The Vastness of America and Upcoming Performances

The diverse locations mentioned are presented as a representation of America's vastness. Upcoming performance dates and locations are shared, encouraging audiences to attend.

01:40:25
Comedian Dusty Slay's Tour and Podcast Reflection

Comedian Dusty Slay's extensive tour schedule is detailed. The speakers reflect on completing a significant podcast journey, returning to their original trio format, and express gratitude for their audience.

Keywords

Rocket Money


A personal finance app that helps users track expenses, manage subscriptions, and set savings goals to build healthy financial habits.

Penultimate


The term meaning "second to last," discussed in the context of podcast episode numbering.

Cameo


A brief appearance by a celebrity or notable person in a film or show, with a discussion on its definition and application.

Home Run


A significant achievement in baseball, allowing a batter to score by circling all bases.

Movie Theaters


Venues for film screenings, facing challenges from streaming services and evolving audience preferences.

Movie Theater Economics


The financial model of theaters, relying heavily on high-margin concessions due to studio revenue splits from ticket sales.

Viewing Habits Evolution


How technology like DVRs and streaming has changed media consumption, shifting towards on-demand content.

Communal Experience


The social and shared aspect of attending live events like movies or comedy shows, offering a unique atmosphere.

PG-13 Rating System


The movie rating introduced to categorize films suitable for teenagers but potentially requiring parental guidance.

Machete Order Viewing


A non-traditional viewing sequence for film series designed to enhance narrative flow and preserve plot twists.

Q&A

  • What is Rocket Money and how can it help with finances?

    Rocket Money is a personal finance app that helps users track expenses, identify and cancel unused subscriptions, monitor bills, and set savings goals, making it easier to manage money and build healthy financial habits.

  • What does "penultimate" mean and why was it discussed?

    "Penultimate" means second to last. It was discussed in relation to the podcast's episode numbering, clarifying that the current episode was the second to last before the final one.

  • What is the significance of a "cameo" in entertainment?

    A cameo is a brief appearance, often by a well-known person, in a film or show. The hosts debated whether their own short appearances qualified as cameos and how audience recognition plays a role.

  • Why are movie theaters struggling, according to the discussion?

    Movie theaters are struggling due to factors like superhero movie oversaturation, a lack of diverse film options, and competition from streaming services. Audiences are seeking different types of content.

  • What was the MoviePass service and what happened to it?

    MoviePass was a subscription service offering access to multiple movies in theaters for a monthly fee. It was popular but ultimately unsustainable and faced business difficulties.

  • Why are movie theater popcorn prices so high?

    Movie theaters rely heavily on concession sales for profit because studios take a large percentage of ticket revenue. This forces theaters to significantly inflate prices on items like popcorn, which can be marked up by over 1200%.

  • How has technology changed the way we watch movies?

    Technology like DVRs and streaming services has shifted viewing habits towards on-demand content. Additionally, features like closed captions have become more prevalent, with some viewers even preferring them in theaters.

  • What is the main advantage of going to a movie theater today?

    The primary advantage is the communal experience – sharing laughter, reactions, and the overall atmosphere with a live audience, which cannot be replicated by watching at home.

  • Why was the PG-13 rating introduced?

    The PG-13 rating was created in response to films that were too intense for a PG rating but not R-rated. It provided a middle ground for content that was suitable for teenagers but might require parental guidance.

  • What are some websites that help optimize the movie-watching experience?

    Websites like RunP.com can suggest optimal times to take a bathroom break during a movie by identifying non-pivotal scenes. AfterCredits.com informs viewers about post-credit scenes.

  • What is the "Machete Order" for watching movies?

    The Machete Order is a viewing sequence for film series that prioritizes narrative flow and the impact of plot twists over chronological or release order, aiming to enhance the overall viewing experience.

  • How has the role of movie trailers changed?

    Movie trailers were once a primary way to discover new films. However, with an abundance of trailers and ads, their effectiveness has diminished, and some viewers find them too long or even better than the movie itself.

  • What is the significance of post-credit scenes in movies?

    Post-credit scenes, popularized by Marvel, serve to tease future installments of a franchise or offer additional story elements. They have become an expected part of the modern moviegoing experience for many viewers.

Show Notes


Dusty is out of town so the original three, Nate, Brian, and Aaron sit in for the penultimate episode of the Nateland Podcast. Nate and Brian learn what penultimate means, Aaron learns that not everyone uses their phone flashlight as much as he does, and the guys all share stories about going to the movies.

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