In this episode of the Ministry Mix Podcast, Phil and Richard explore what happens when the people who helped shape you in ministry are no longer there—whether through death, burnout, moral failure, or natural transition. They open up about their own experiences of losing key influences in their life and the disorienting, yet defining impact it can have on a leader's soul and direction.

The conversation covers:

• Why losing a mentor hits harder than expected
• How feelings of grief, betrayal, and disillusionment can affect your leadership
• The dangers of dependency and idolizing mentors
• How to grow into your own leadership voice when the voices you relied on are gone
• Why it's worth the risk to keep pursuing deep, formative relationships in ministry

Packed with personal stories, biblical reflections, and raw insight, this episode is a reminder that while mentors may come and go, the call of God remains—and so does the opportunity to become the kind of leader others can lean on.

Key Quote:
"Our ministry can’t be built on the mountains of men—it has to rest on the faithfulness of God."

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