DiscoverAnimal Behavior Conversations: The Podcast of The ABMA30: Classical and Operant and Schedules... Oh My! The Podcast in Review - Part One with Tricia Dees, Sarah Dugger, & Justin Garner
30: Classical and Operant and Schedules... Oh My! The Podcast in Review - Part One with Tricia Dees, Sarah Dugger, & Justin Garner

30: Classical and Operant and Schedules... Oh My! The Podcast in Review - Part One with Tricia Dees, Sarah Dugger, & Justin Garner

Update: 2023-09-20
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As this is the 30th episode of the podcast we have assembled a panel of guests to answer some of the questions that our listeners have submitted concerning the previous 29 episodes. Tricia Dees, Sarah Dugger, and Justin Garner all join the podcast again to answer and discuss a wide range of questions including: differences between classical and operant conditioning, variable schedules, reinforcement placement, negative reinforcement, and the start of building relationships with an animal. This podcast recording was 3 hours long, so this panel will be back again next episode to finish answering questions. In addition, we ran out of time for a "Training Tale" from the guests so host, Shane, shares a "Training Tale" in honor of the life of Bodega the sea lion that involves a forklift malfunction. For questions or suggestions about the podcast email abc@theabma.org Let's talk some training!


6:30 Introduction to Tricia Dees, Sarah Dugger, & Justin Garner 


  • 11:05 Can you explain the difference between operant and classical conditioning? 



  • 18:05 If you have an animal that is afraid to approach you for reinforcement, how could you use operant conditioning to help the animal be more comfortable approaching you and to make training sessions reinforcing rather than potentially aversive?



  • 29:25 Does Negative Reinforcement have to include removing something that is aversive to the animal? 



  • 36:10 If we are bridging every behavior, how can we really be using variable reinforcement, even if we are only following up with reinforcement variably?



  • 44:35 What would constitute something as being a baiting strategy vs reinforcement placement? 



  • 56:30 “Training Tales”


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    30: Classical and Operant and Schedules... Oh My! The Podcast in Review - Part One with Tricia Dees, Sarah Dugger, & Justin Garner

    30: Classical and Operant and Schedules... Oh My! The Podcast in Review - Part One with Tricia Dees, Sarah Dugger, & Justin Garner

    Shane Gorbett, Board of Directors, The Animal Behavior Management Alliance