4.54 Marc Minter, David Schrock & Stephen Wellum • Interview • “Liberty, Not Separation: The Historic Development of Baptist Perspectives on Church and State”
Update: 2025-11-24
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ABOUT THE EPISODE
Listen in as David Schrock & Stephen Wellum interview Marc Minter on his Longform essay, "Liberty Not Separation: The Historic Development of Baptist Perspectives on Church and State"
Timestamps
- 00:48 – Intro
- 05:52 – Marc Minter and His Academic Aspirations
- 10:30 – The State of Political Theology in the SBC
- 14:48 – Influences on Political Theology
- 19:00 – The Significance of Everson v. Board of Education 1947
- 21:42 – How This Case Shaped Subsequent Generations’ Worldviews
- 24:27 – Jefferson’s Letter to the Danbury Baptists
- 30:10 – How Much Did Jefferson’s Views Change Between 1776-1802?
- 33:37 – The Distinction Between Reformation and Enlightment Traditions
- 37:55 – The Two Notions of the Term ‘Separation’
- 43:05 – Have We Adopted an Anabaptist Tradition of Church & State?
- 45:47 – E.Y. Mullins’ Views on the State
- 49:10 – Mullins’ Interjection into the Baptist Faith & Message
- 58:48 – What Should Pastors Do In Light of All This?
- 1:04:24 – Readings for Baptist Political Theology
- 1:06:10 – Outro
Resources to Click
- “Liberty, Not Separation: The Historic Development of Baptist Perspectives on Church and State” – Marc Minter
- “Views of Individuals in Southern Baptist Congregations on Baptist Political Theology” – Lifeway Research
- “The Impotence of Secular Conservatism” – R. Albert Mohler Jr.
- Comparison Chart of the Baptist Faith and Message
- Theme of the Month: Do the Reading: Selections in Political Theology
- Give to Support the Work
Books to Read
- Ecclesiology: A Study of the Churches – Edwin Charles Dargan
- Baptist Political Theology – eds. Thomas Kidd, Paul Miller, & Andrew T. Walker
- Thomas Jefferson and the Wall of Separation Between Church and State – Daniel Dreisbach
- Agreeing to Disagree: How the Establishment Clause Protects Religious Diversity and Freedom of Conscience – Nathan S. Chapman and Michael W. McConnell
- Separation of Church and State – Philip Hamburger
- More Than Just a Name: Preserving Our Baptist Identity – Stan Norman
- The Axioms of Religion: A New Interpretation of the Baptist Faith – E.Y. Mullins
- The Baptist Story: From English Sect to Global Movement – Anthony L. Chute, Nathan A. Finn, & Michael A.G. Haykin
- Demanding Liberty: An Untold Story of American Religious Liberty – Brandon J. O’Brien
- Let Men Be Free: Baptist Politics in the Early United States (1776-1835) – Obbie Tyler Todd
- Baptist Confessions, Covenants, and Catechisms – John A. Broadus, ed. Timothy George
- Baptist Theology: A Four-Century Study – James Leo Garrett
- Baptist Confessions of Faith – William L. Lumpkin
- Christianity & Liberalism – J. Gresham Machen
- Uneasy in Babylon: Southern Baptist Conservatives and American Culture – Barry Hankins
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