You Don’t Have the Butts

[00:00:00 ] Introduction and Greetings

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[00:00:03 ] Brett: Hey, you’re listening to Overtired. I am Brett Terpstra. I am here with Christina Warren and Jeff Severins Gunsel. Welcome to the show, guys.

[00:00:13 ] Jeff: Oh, thank you.

[00:00:15 ] Brett: It’s good to have you here.

[00:00:17 ] Christina: It’s good to be

[00:00:18 ] Jeff: be here.

[00:00:19 ] Late Recording and Drinks

[00:00:19 ] Jeff: We don’t normally record at this. It’s, it’s 5 p. m. here. It’s 3 p. m. for Christina, but actually, like, I feel more ready than I usually do. Whereas normally, if I were ending my day, I would feel very dead inside. Um, and so thank you for, uh, for giving me a different kind of ending of my day.

[00:00:37 ] Brett: Why would you feel dead inside at the end of a day?

[00:00:40 ] Jeff: Oh, sometimes it’s just, you’re tired. You go, you know, it’s like, you’re not interacting with people. You’re just ending and then you’re interacting. And so it’s nice. This is like a nice landing. It’s a

[00:00:49 ] Brett: yeah. So

[00:00:50 ] Jeff: One might say happy ending.

[00:00:52 ] Brett: I call that like, vegging out time, which is 100 percent where I’m at right now. Um, I made a too stiff [00:01:00 ] screwdriver to celebrate our late recording time. Um, I, there is, there is a line where a screwdriver becomes just, there’s just too much vodka, too much vodka.

[00:01:12 ] Christina: It’s true. It’s true. Right. Right. But sometimes, you know, that happens. Like, you just get a little bit too much and you’re like, actually

[00:01:19 ] Brett: Wow, this tastes like grain alcohol all of a sudden.

[00:01:22 ] Christina: Exactly. You’re like, you’re like, I could have had a little more juice with this. Yeah.

[00:01:27 ] Jeff: All right.

[00:01:28 ] Mental Health Corner: Jeff’s Journey

[00:01:28 ] Brett: uh, let’s, let’s kick it off with a contained mental health corner. Um, who wants to go first? Is it going to be me?

[00:01:37 ] Jeff: I can make a, I can do, I have kind of a quick one. I was cleaning out a sort of catch all room in our house in the basement and, um, came across this bag of like, But it was mostly empty prescription pill bottles, but it had like, uh, it was also a little museum with some leftover pills of all of the medications that I’ve [00:02:00 ] taken over the last few years.

[00:02:01 ] Jeff: And, and, and that includes, you know, a period where I was over medicated, um, a period where we were just trying things. And, um, and, and that was a, those were a hard couple periods and it was, And I’m very much on the other side of that, and so it was like, at first, Almost a little chilling to look at all the medication names again and even to like rattle the bottles because there were still pills in there.

[00:02:26 ] Jeff: I need to get rid of them. I don’t want to

[00:02:28 ] Brett: Why do you save

[00:02:29 ] Jeff: I didn’t save them. No, no. I honestly, like when I would change medication, I’d be like, okay, fuck this. I’m putting this in a drawer. I’m not, because I wasn’t sure at that moment, right, that I wasn’t going back to it, but I would just like squirrel it away.

[00:02:43 ] Jeff: And it, um, it just ended up there, but anyhow, um, it, it, it just, it served as, many kinds of reminders. One is that you can come on the other side of being over medicated, having your medication poorly managed, [00:03:00 ] um, and even when it is well managed, the sort of stabbing in the dark period. And the other is that those things exist.

[00:03:07 ] Jeff: And I, um, and I, I just say that for anybody out there who is, um, Currently kind of trying to dial it in, uh, that I see you and that it’s hard and that, um, had I not had some support just like in my own home and with my therapist who was different from my medication manager, uh, sort of witnessing from the outside.

[00:03:30 ] Jeff: I don’t think I could have ever gotten out of that hole. Um, and, and so just putting that out there, it was like a, it was an intense thing to sort of interact with. And I’m so. Grateful to be on the other side of it, um, and have been on the other side of it for months now, and maybe more than a year. So that’s

[00:03:48 ] Brett: That’s awesome.

[00:03:49 ] Christina: That’s really great.

[00:03:50 ] Jeff: And I got to get rid of those pills, but like, I don’t want to throw them in the garbage, and I don’t want to throw them in the toilet, and I know there’s places that recycle

[00:03:55 ] Brett: pharmacies do, like, once a year they have, like, [00:04:00 ] med disposal

[00:04:01 ] Jeff: is it like a gun buyback

[00:04:02 ] Brett: Yeah, it is. It is. And you, you can bring any, any medications, no questions asked, and they will safely dispose of them for you. And you know there’s some kid just, like, going through the bottles, pocketing what he can get, but, you know.

[00:04:16 ] Jeff: That’s why I wanted to mix them all up and just put them into it, you know,

[00:04:20 ] Brett: If my therapists were also my medication manager, I would either be on way more drugs or no drugs.

[00:04:29 ] Jeff: tough to say.

[00:04:31 ] Brett: I don’t know which way it would turn, but

[00:04:34 ] Jeff: Well, that’s, that’s me.

[00:04:35 ] Christina: I was going to say, that’s me. I’m, I’m on, my, my the