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460 — The irony of L&D: When do we develop ourselves?

460 — The irony of L&D: When do we develop ourselves?

Update: 2025-09-02
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As learning and development professionals, we spend most of our days thinking about how we help others build their skills. But how many of us neglect our own development while doing so?

It's what L&D advisor, writer and speaker David Kelly calls 'The Irony of L&D', and in this week's episode of The Mindtools L&D Podcast, David joins Ross G and Claire to discuss:

  • how to make time for personal development
  • how to build this habit among your team
  • the extent to which AI makes personal development existential for L&D professionals.

To find out more about David, find him on LinkedIn. There you'll also find his article, 'The Irony of L&D: We Often Forget Our Own Development'.

In 'What I Learned This Week', Ross G discussed 'chimping'.

David discussed Josh Cavalier's guidance on AI prompting with JSON.

For more from us, visit mindtools.com. There, you'll also find details of our award-winning Content Hub, our Manager Skills Assessment, our Manager Skill Builder and our custom work. 

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460 — The irony of L&D: When do we develop ourselves?

460 — The irony of L&D: When do we develop ourselves?

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