Jamal Simmons and Karen Finney, former communications director for the Democratic National Committee, discuss the evolution of politics over the decades. They discuss challenges, changes in political dynamics, coalition building, and their personal journeys into public service. Finney shares her experiences in the Clinton administration and the complexities of American society and the diverse interpretations of the American dream. They also discuss the evolving role of women in politics, the challenges they face, and the importance of representation and accountability. They explore the impact of recent events on women’s political aspirations and the need for a movement to reclaim political power, particularly in redistricting and the balance between local and national issues.