Part 2 of Yowei's quest to solve the mystery of proxy conversations. Why do they work?  How? Can Yowei figure out how to explain the show to people who don't get it?

In this episode, Yowei gets advice from actor, comedian, and proxy conversation expert Connor Ratliff. 

Over 20 years ago, Tom Hanks fired Connor from a small role in the HBO mini-series Band of Brothers - apparently for having "dead eyes." But is that really what happened? Connor made a podcast called Dead Eyes to investigate, and had 30 episodes worth of proxy conversations before talking to Tom Hanks himself. 

Check out Connor Ratliff's work:

• Dead Eyes podcast
• Tiny Dinos podcast
• The George Lucas Show

Episode credits:

• Produced by Yowei Shaw and Kim Nederveen Pieterse
• Mixed by Kyle Pulley

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