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67: Response to Dave Simon's 3 Metrics for Student Retention

67: Response to Dave Simon's 3 Metrics for Student Retention

Update: 2025-11-05
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On this episode John Kozicki (Michigan Rock School and RockSchoolProprietor.com) reacts to Dave Simon's podcast about the three P's of music lesson success—pleasure, practice, progress—and proposes a fourth P: purpose.


He argues that understanding why a student is taking lessons changes how we weight practice and progress, and can improve retention.


The episode explores how emphasizing practice without knowing a family’s goals can push students to quit, offers practical thinking for teachers, and points to resources for redefining what counts as practice and aligning lessons with student purpose.


Additional suggested listening:


Music Lessons & Marketing: The 3 Metrics Parents Use to Define Music Lesson Success | EP268


Ep. 29: Dave Simon | Revisiting the 'Practice Problem'


Ep. 30: Inside Look at Why Parents Pull Kids from Music Lessons


Ep. 4: What "Counts" as Practice? Redefining Practice in Music Lessons


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67: Response to Dave Simon's 3 Metrics for Student Retention

67: Response to Dave Simon's 3 Metrics for Student Retention

John Kozicki