What do The A-Team, Friends, Avatar: The Last Airbender, and The Walking Dead have in common? They’ve all taught us something about leadership, storytelling, or the soul. In this laid-back (and slightly post-lunch delirious) episode, Phil and Richard each share three TV shows that shaped their approach to ministry—and end with one shared favorite that might surprise you.

From embracing curiosity over judgment, to diagnosing the root of the issue, to learning resilience and hope in a broken world, this episode explores how watching with intentionality can help ministry leaders grow—not just escape.

In this episode, we talk about:

• Why your sermon series might be more like a TV season than a movie
• Using fictional characters to learn curiosity, compassion, and clarity
• How storytelling in media reflects deep theological truths (and lies)
• The gift of finding gospel reminders—even in a cheesy rerun

Quote of the Episode:
“Preachers are storytellers. Watching good stories can help us tell the better one.”