Schmear is rejoined by Alison Sivitz—aka Bald Ann Dowd—to dive into one of the most divisive movies of the year: 'Materialists,' the new Celine Song rom-com (or is it?) starring Dakota Johnson, Pedro Pascal, and Chris Evans.

They discuss the rom-com genre (3:38 ), break down what works and what doesn’t (9:48 ), and discuss the film’s strange and extreme reception (45:57 ). Schmear wraps by asking Sivi about the masterpiece movies she's been watching since she was last on the show for White Lotus coverage (56:04 ).

Then, Schmear is joined by Jason Keller, creator and showrunner of the hit Apple TV+ comedy 'Stick,' starring Owen Wilson—and screenwriter of 'Ford v Ferrari.' (1:00:55 ) Schmear asks about working with Owen Wilson, how Keller promotes cast chemistry on set, and his thoughts on golf overall. They finish with a lightning round of rapid-fire questions (1:16:39 ), including what makes a good dad movie—and Jason’s favorite sports movie of all time.

Host: Gabriel Frieberg

Guests: Alison Sivitz, Jason Keller

Producer: Pavlo Melnyk

Music: Justin Friedman

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