9: #9 | Meats with Greg Warren
Digest
This podcast episode features comedians Aaron Weber, Brian Bates, and guest Greg Warren, alongside listener interactions. The conversation spans various topics including upcoming comedy shows, coffee alternatives like Mudwater, and personal anecdotes from the road. They delve into discussions about Western movies, the legacy of John Wayne, and the performances of actors like Robert Duvall and Tom Hanks. The episode also touches on comedian documentaries, hair growth solutions with iRestore Elite, and the nuances of barbecue styles across different regions like Texas, Kansas City, Memphis, and Carolina. Further discussions include the origins of Nashville Hot Chicken, steak doneness preferences, beef cuts, and the definition of pescatarian diets. The hosts also address listener comments, catchphrases, and share humorous stories, creating a dynamic and engaging listening experience.
Outlines

Introduction and Guest Welcome
The podcast begins with hosts Aaron Weber and Brian Bates welcoming comedian Greg Warren, discussing his recent successful shows and their excitement for the episode.

Comedy Show Updates and Travel Plans
The hosts share updates on their comedy shows in various cities and Greg Warren announces his upcoming performances and participation in the Moon Tower Comedy Festival in Austin.

Coffee Alternatives and Weekend Recaps
The conversation shifts to coffee alternatives like Mudwater, followed by recaps of recent comedy shows, including experiences with different crowds and venues.

Comedy Show Dynamics and Anecdotes
Hosts discuss comedy show styles, material flexibility, and share humorous or awkward on-stage moments, including an anecdote about Connie Smith at the Grand Ole Opry.

Material Development and Upcoming Specials
Greg Warren discusses his developing material for upcoming specials, focusing on specific themes, while other comedians share details about their own specials and performances.

Comedian Showcases and Podcast Updates
Aaron shares details about his shows in Minneapolis, mentioning fellow comedians. Brian provides updates on the Nate Land podcast, including Season 4 showcases and special announcements.

Regional Comedy Scenes and Listener Engagement
Greg recounts his weekend in Little Rock, discussing venue dynamics. The hosts then dive into listener comments from various platforms, discussing the podcast's engagement system.

Pop Culture and Listener Discussions
The conversation touches on the TV show \"Highway to Heaven\" and baseball, before shifting to a deep dive into listener comments about Western movies and directors.

Western Films and Actor Discussions
The discussion on Western movies continues, with a focus on John Wayne's prominence and the inclusion of other actors like Robert Duvall and Tom Hanks.

Literary Characters and Comedian Documentaries
The hosts discuss the character Boo Radley from \"To Kill a Mockingbird\" and the concept of commentary tracks on comedian documentaries.

Health and Wellness Advertisements
An advertisement for iRestore Elite, a hair growth device, is featured, followed by a discussion on the benefits of at-home health testing services like Superpower.

Comedy Club Experiences and Steakhouse Anecdotes
The hosts revisit experiences at the Little Rock Looney Bend club and share a memorable dinner story involving Charlie's Steakhouse.

Steak Preferences and Culinary Debates
The conversation delves into steak doneness preferences, the nature of myoglobin in steak, and the ethics of eating raw beef, advocating for avoiding steak shaming.

Humility, Catchphrases, and Stage Habits
The speakers discuss appreciating feedback, identifying commenters, the evolution of catchphrases, and restrictions comedians face on stage, including the \"sloppy\" use of sweat towels.

Catchphrase Potential and Special Titles
The potential of the catchphrase \"Boy, I tell you\" is explored, alongside a discussion about a missed opportunity for a special title, \"Peanut Butter Boy.\"

Listener Reactions and Shifting Topics
Reactions to listener comments like \"Beaver Nugget\" and \"Cowboy Take Me Away\" are shared, noting a shift from potentially offensive topics to sexist comments.

Comedian Meltdowns and Pronunciation Debates
A prediction of a comedian's meltdown is made, followed by a debate on the pronunciation of \"biopic\" and a suggestion for a trivia game based on Dusty's theories.

Health Testing and Barbecue Discussions
Frustration with doctor's visits leads to a discussion of at-home health testing. The main topic then shifts to meats and barbecue, including regional styles and specific restaurants.

Regional Barbecue Styles and Anecdotes
Humorous anecdotes about barbecue experiences in Tennessee and discussions about Wright's Barbecue, Robert DeVall's persona, and comparisons between Texas and Kansas City barbecue styles.

Barbecue Characteristics and Preferences
Defining characteristics of Texas barbecue are detailed, with a strong preference for dry rubs over sauces and an anecdote about a cafeteria lady recognizing a customer's preference.

Unique Barbecue Offerings and Restaurant Concepts
The speakers discuss Martins Barbecue's limited offerings, humorously considering an \"all bologna\" restaurant, and then move on to St. Louis barbecue, specifically pork steak.

Restaurant Experiences and Authenticity Debates
A disappointing barbecue experience in St. Louis is recounted, leading to a discussion about how people can become offended by restaurant choices and the difficulty of finding authentic local spots.

Food Debates and Regional Specialties
A story about a \"best burger\" debate and chicken sandwich preference is shared, followed by mentions of Stellar Hogg in St. Louis and Philly cheesesteak tourist traps.

\"Real Barbecue\" and Regional Styles
The strong opinions surrounding \"real barbecue\" in Texas are touched upon, followed by descriptions of St. Louis style barbecue (pork steak) and Carolina barbecue (pulled pork, regional sauces).

Barbecue Restaurant Experiences and Ordering Strategies
Frequent visits to Bessemer's barbecue and Chuck's barbecue are mentioned, along with the realization that Wits and Famous Dave's are chains. The best way to order barbecue for the first time is discussed.

The Ultimate Restaurant Order and Local Comedy Scene
The fantasy of ordering \"one of everything\" is discussed, followed by comments on the scarcity of comedians visiting St. Louis and a humorous anecdote about a comedian's restaurant recommendation.

Barbecue Sauce Mysteries and Analogies
A question about liquid smoke in St. Louis barbecue sauce is raised, leading to a folksy analogy about understanding function over details.

Memphis, Carolina, and Alabama Barbecue Styles
Memphis style barbecue (ribs, dry rub) and Carolina barbecue (pulled pork, vinegar/mustard sauces) are detailed. Alabama's \"white sauce\" and Dreamland ribs are also discussed.

Barbecue Chain Origins and Name Disputes
Jim and Nick's barbecue is discussed, with speculation about its name. The origin of Ruth's Chris Steakhouse is explained.

Nashville Hot Chicken and Chicken Finger Chains
The origin story of Nashville Hot Chicken is recounted, noting its recent popularity and commercialization. The origins of chicken finger chains like Zaxby's and Raising Cane's are also explored.

Mattress Upgrades and Sleep Optimization
The conversation shifts to spring cleaning and upgrading mattresses, highlighting Helix mattresses for better sleep and allergen relief, with a special discount offer.

Steak Preferences and Culinary Etiquette
The speakers recall a memorable dinner at Charlie's Steakhouse and discuss their preferred steak doneness, the \"well done\" steak debate, and steak preparation etiquette.

Steak Cuts and Meat Science
Favorite steak cuts, particularly ribeye, are discussed. The red liquid in steak is identified as myoglobin, not blood, and the ethics of eating raw beef are briefly considered.

Nostalgic Restaurants and Steak Preparation
Western Sizzlin' and Bonanza buffets are recalled. The discussion covers steak preparation, etiquette, and types of beef for steaks, including Angus and Wagyu.

Edible Animals and Food Imports
A conversation about animals that are legal to eat but often aren't, contrasting with protected species. The ban on importing wild beluga sturgeon caviar is discussed.

Caviar Pairings and Fast Food Origins
The perfect cracker for caviar is debated, and the origin story of the Filet-O-Fish sandwich is recounted, including its competition with the \"hula burger.\"

Dietary Definitions and Music Genres
The definition of pescatarian and the classification of fish as meat are explored. The popularity and definition of \"yacht rock\" music are also discussed.

On-Stage Emergencies and Tour Updates
Experiences with audience medical emergencies during shows are shared, followed by comedians sharing their upcoming tour dates and show locations.
Keywords
Public Figures podcast
A podcast featuring comedians Aaron Weber, Brian Bates, and various guests, discussing comedy, personal anecdotes, and current events.
Greg Warren
A comedian known for his unique style and storytelling, frequently appearing on comedy podcasts and performing stand-up.
Comedy Shows
Live performances by comedians, a primary way for them to connect with audiences and test new material.
Mudwater
A coffee alternative with functional mushrooms and less caffeine, offering focus and calm without jitters.
Western Movies
A film genre set in the American West, exploring themes of justice, survival, and frontier life.
John Wayne
An iconic American actor famous for his roles in Western films, a symbol of American masculinity.
Tom Hanks
A highly acclaimed American actor known for versatile roles in films like "Forrest Gump" and "Saving Private Ryan."
iRestore Elite
An at-home hair restoration device using light therapy to stimulate hair follicles and promote hair growth.
Barbecue Styles
Distinct regional methods of preparing barbecued meats, including Texas, Kansas City, Memphis, and Carolina styles.
Nashville Hot Chicken
A spicy fried chicken dish originating from Nashville, Tennessee, known for its cayenne pepper-based paste.
Steak Doneness
The level to which a steak is cooked, ranging from rare to well-done, with varying personal preferences.
Myoglobin
A protein in muscle tissue that stores oxygen; the red liquid in steak is primarily myoglobin, not blood.
Angus Beef
A breed of cattle known for producing high-quality, well-marbled beef, often favored in restaurants.
Wagyu Beef
A Japanese breed of cattle famous for intensely marbled, rich, and tender meat, significantly more expensive than other beef types.
Pescatarian Diet
A dietary pattern including fish and seafood but excluding other meats, often chosen for health benefits.
Yacht Rock
A music genre from the late 1970s and early 1980s, characterized by smooth, mellow melodies.
Q&A
What is the \"Mudwater\" discussed in the podcast?
Mudwater is presented as a coffee alternative that incorporates functional mushrooms like lion's mane and cordyceps, plus L-theanine. It offers a lower caffeine content (45mg) compared to traditional coffee, aiming to provide focus and calm without the jitters or subsequent crash.
What are some of the Western movies mentioned by the hosts and listeners?
The discussion includes classics like "Once Upon a Time in the West," "The Magnificent Seven," "Shane," "Rio Bravo," "High Noon," "El Dorado," and "True Grit." "The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance" and "Lonesome Dove" are also highlighted as significant entries in the genre.
What is the iRestore Elite, and what are its benefits?
The iRestore Elite is an at-home device that utilizes 300 lasers and 200 LEDs for targeted light therapy to stimulate hair follicles. It is clinically proven to help regrow hair, reduce thinning and shedding, and promote fuller, healthier hair with consistent use.
What was the humorous anecdote shared about Connie Smith at the Grand Ole Opry?
Brian Bates recounted an awkward encounter where he mistook Connie Smith's hand on a stanchion for an extended hand, leading him to place his hand on hers. He initially thought she was offering a handshake, creating a moment of confusion and slight embarrassment.
What is the significance of John Wayne in the context of Western films discussed?
A listener emphasized John Wayne's importance, stating that his movies are a "rite of passage" in West Texas and that a deep dive into his filmography is essential for understanding the Western genre. Films like "The Searchers," "The Cowboys," and "El Dorado" were specifically mentioned.
What is the debate surrounding the pronunciation of \"biopic\"?
The speakers debate whether to pronounce \"biopic\" as \"biopic\" or \"biopic.\" While many pronounce it the latter way, dictionaries generally favor \"biopic\" due to its etymological roots.
How is Texas barbecue typically characterized?
Texas barbecue is characterized by its focus on beef, particularly slow-smoked brisket, ribs, and sausage. It's often cooked over oak or pecan wood and is known for minimal sauce and the use of dry rubs.
What is the origin story of Nashville Hot Chicken?
Nashville Hot Chicken originated when a woman, seeking revenge on her unfaithful partner, spiced his chicken. He unexpectedly loved the dish, leading to its widespread popularity and commercial success.
Is the red liquid that comes out of steak blood?
No, the red liquid released from steak is not blood. It is primarily myoglobin, a protein that stores oxygen in muscle tissue, mixed with water. All blood is removed during the meat processing.
What are some of the legally protected animals that cannot be eaten in the U.S.?
In the U.S., it is illegal to eat animals protected by conservation laws. This includes sea turtles, migratory birds, whales, seals, sea lions, eagles, and certain wild animals categorized as bush meat like monkeys and antelopes due to disease risk.
What is the origin story of the Filet-O-Fish sandwich?
A McDonald's franchise owner in Cincinnati, facing low sales on Fridays during Lent due to a predominantly Catholic clientele, proposed a fish sandwich to Ray Kroc. The Filet-O-Fish was tested against Kroc's "hula burger" and proved to be a massive success.
What defines \"yacht rock\" music?
Yacht rock is a genre characterized by smooth, mellow music from the late 70s and early 80s, often incorporating R&B influences. While popular, not all artists associated with the genre embrace the term, with some finding it reductive.
Why is fish often categorized differently from land animal meat?
Although fish is animal flesh, it's often distinguished due to its unique nutrient profile, particularly its high omega-3 fatty acid content. This difference is significant enough for distinct culinary, dietary, and even religious contexts.
Show Notes
This week, Nateland favorite Greg Warren makes his Public Figures debut to talk to the guys about barbecue, steak, and other meats.
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