First of all a bit of an apology - we are lacklustre today and believe it comes through in this episode. As we do preface at the beginning - this podcast is not at all for financial gain or even marketing or reach. Really the podcast has become simply about bringing you more - more of our conversations, more of our thoughts, more of our lives - a way for us to share more with you than just our workouts. So with that, our conversations are honest and real-time - REAL being the key word. As we know Leece is in the thick of Dan's treatment and life being flipped on its head; forever changed. Naturally this is where our conversation is. We talk briefly about some lighter stuff like actors and authors falling into genres, Ritual42 - and the fact it isn't motivating Leece lol - and unsurprisingly a fair bit of chat around food. Sorry if it puts you to sleep but such is life today and we hope you still enjoy our catch up. Thank you for your continued support.