This week on Rubicon: Brian Beutler talks to MSNBC's Chris Hayes about Biden's COVID plan, the parts of the plan that will be hardest to execute (spoiler alert: vaccines!), and how to recalibrate our criticism for a president who finally takes the pandemic seriously.

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