In this episode, I have the profound honor of sitting down with Thomas Drake, a former senior executive at the National Security Agency (NSA) who became one of the most consequential whistleblowers of our time. After exposing post-9/11 mass surveillance and systemic abuses of power, Thomas faced 35 years in prison under the Espionage Act, only to walk free as a living testament to integrity under fire.

We journey through his "moment of truth" at the NSA and dive deep into his evolution from a veteran of the Air Force, Navy, and CIA to a seeker of spiritual and metaphysical truth. Together, we explore the fine line between secrecy and transparency, the dangers of a "highly ordered dystopia," and how we can collapse the potentiality of a dark future to manifest a redeemed world.

This conversation is a bridge between the "shadow lands" of national security and the blazing hope of a human rebirth, reminding us that we are not just human doings, but human interbeings.

In this episode, we explore:

04:34 How a near-death experience at age four sparked a lifelong search for truth.

11:50 Reporting to the NSA on 9/11

11:00 The "Shadow Lands" of secrecy: How government institutions become addicted to hiding the truth.

27:30 The cost of courage: Facing 10 felony counts and 35 years in prison for upholding the Constitution.

30:13 How intentionality collapses the future into our present reality.

36:42 Corporate Futurism vs. Conscious Futurism: Breaking the "spell" of inevitable technocracy.

38:20 Using ancient memory to navigate the complexity of the modern nexus point.

42:15 Why human governments fail and how we must learn to govern ourselves.

50:13 Moving past the pathology of power to find unity on our "privileged planet."

51:55 The vision of a redeemed Earth and the upcoming transition beyond the event horizon.

About Thomas Drake

Thomas Drake is a former senior executive at the National Security Agency turned whistleblower on post-9/11 mass surveillance, government malfeasance, and intelligence failures. A veteran of the Air Force, Navy, and CIA, he was the defendant in a signature Espionage Act case during the Obama administration where he faced 35 years in prison for telling the truth. He holds a PhD in Public Policy and Administration, focusing on the consequences of secrecy. 

Today, Thomas is a dedicated defender of civil liberties and a "conscious futurist" peering past the abyss to glimpse a redeemed world. He has been featured in the documentary "Silenced," PBS Frontline’s "United States of Secrets," and 60 Minutes.

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Stephanie Trager, is a conscious futurist, transformational coach, deep impact strategist, and lawyer, who for 25 years has been guiding visionary leaders, next gens, and entrepreneurs to remember who they really are so they can do the work they're really here to do. A conscious futurist, she’s on a mission to activate one million conscious futurists in the next two years, to help usher in a new paradigm of reality. 

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