At some point in the last year, bots became your biggest website visitors. Not people. Not crawlers. Not even APIs. Bots with goals. Agents with plans.

Linda Tong, CEO of Webflow, has seen it up close – and she's redesigning the web to meet them.

In this episode, we talk about what it means to build agent-first websites:

How to talk to bots.

How to let them click buttons.

And how to create experiences that work for humans and AI – without turning the internet into garbage.

We cover:

 – When bot traffic started overtaking humans

 – Why AEO (agentic engine optimization) is the new SEO

 – Why websites need a second language – for LLMs

 – What "agent-ready" structure really means

 – Hybrid UX: visual for humans, semantic for agents

 – Why dynamic, personalized web experiences are overdue

 – Leadership, kindness, and Ender’s Game as a design philosophy

This one's fast, nerdy, real, and fun. Linda’s not afraid to challenge old assumptions – or to break her own product if it means building what’s next.

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Guest:

Linda Tong, CEO @Webflow

https://www.linkedin.com/in/lktong/

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https://webflow.com/

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*Chapters*

0:00 - Introduction

0:43 - The Rise of Non-Human Traffic

1:54 - When Did the Shift to Bot Traffic Start?

2:24 - Good Bots vs. Bad Bots

3:39 - The Emergence of AEO (AI/Agentic Engine Optimization)

5:18 - Building Websites for Agents

6:43 - What Agents Need from a Website

8:55 - Enabling Agents to Take Action

10:04 - The Future of Websites: Dual Human and Agent Interfaces

12:12 - The Vision for a Conversational Webflow

14:19 - Beyond Creation: The Future of Dynamic Web Experiences

18:42 - Is SEO Dead? The Relationship Between SEO and AEO

22:10 - The Impact of AGI on Web Development

24:19 - The Book That Shaped Linda

27:00 - Final Thoughts: The Need for "Kind AI"

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