I left some of the clanking & barking & yelling going on outside {things that happen only when you’re recording… am I right, ladies?}, because it seemed so fitting for today’s episode. Hopefully it doesn’t affect any of you listening on headphones. Today I’m breaking the chronological order of episodes basically to give myself permission to allow this podcast to be what it’s meant to be: as natural as a midnight conversation.

I don’t think I ever even got to the point, which is *great*! The point basically is that this podcast is meant to be natural. I’ve felt it since the start, yet I kept trying to make it more ‘produced’. I keep letting perfectionism get in the way. I guess this is my attempt to tell myself and others: NO LONGER. No for this, at least. I don’t want to lose Conversations because of a daunting perfectionism that’s not even demanded from this project.

Anyway, hope you enjoyed this detour-filled ride! Let’s talk again soon!

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Recorded on the 6th of November 2020.