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Adopted from Russia, Leaving Mormonism, & Dealing w/ Hate Comments w/ Maddie Henderson & Matt Scharff

Adopted from Russia, Leaving Mormonism, & Dealing w/ Hate Comments w/ Maddie Henderson & Matt Scharff

Update: 2026-04-15
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This podcast features a TikTok couple, Matt and Maddie, discussing their whirlwind romance, from meeting online during COVID-19 to marriage and an upcoming pregnancy. They share details about their engagement in Greece, their love for animals and use of the Rover app, and the evolution of their content creation. Maddie reflects on leaving strict Mormon culture in Utah for a life with Matt in Texas, while Matt discusses his non-denominational Christian upbringing and his co-ownership of the golf company "Good Good." The conversation also touches upon their experiences with painful periods and endometriosis, the impact of the pandemic on their relationship, and their anticipation of fatherhood. Interwoven with their story is a deeply personal adoption narrative. The speaker recounts her childhood in Russia, marked by hardship, parental struggles with alcoholism, and the eventual separation of siblings into orphanages after their mother's death. The journey to adoption by American parents is detailed, including the initial steps, the emotional return to Russia, and the complexities of adopting older children. The speaker reflects on the impact of global conflicts and adoption bans, and their current consideration of adoption for their own family. The podcast also includes sponsorships from ASPCA Pet Health Insurance, Kindred Bravely (maternity wear), Omaha Steaks, and Haya Health (children's nutrition). Audience questions are addressed regarding paternity leave, travel plans, and baby name speculation. The couple engages in a "Who's More Likely?" game, exploring parenting and relationship dynamics, and discusses LDS culture and terminology. The episode concludes with reflections on social media presence, the unknowns of motherhood, and wedding choices.

Outlines

00:00:00
Introduction to Matt and Maddie, Relationship Timeline, and Engagement

The podcast introduces TikTok couple Matt and Maddie, who are expecting their first child. They clarify their marriage timeline, having been married for nearly three years after meeting online during COVID-19 and rapidly progressing their relationship. They recount their double engagement in Greece and their shared love for animals, including their use of the Rover app for pet care.

00:08:48
Meeting Online, Content Evolution, and Life in Hawaii

Matt and Maddie detail their meeting on TikTok in 2019, initiated by Maddie's appreciation for Matt's Jack Sparrow impression. They discuss the evolution of Maddie's "Just In Case" video series and Matt's initial impressions of her authentic content. The couple also shares their experience living in Hawaii during the COVID-19 pandemic.

00:16:12
Leaving Mormon Culture and Rapid Relationship Progression

Maddie discusses her decision to leave Utah and the strict Mormon culture she was raised in, seeking independence and moving to Texas to be with Matt. They reflect on the rapid pace of their relationship, including moving in together and getting married quickly, acknowledging their parents' initial concerns. Maddie elaborates on her departure from the LDS faith and her personal journey to find her own beliefs.

00:20:16
Sponsorships and Impact of Divorce

This section includes sponsorships from ASPCA Pet Health Insurance and Kindred Bravely. The conversation delves into the profound impact of parental divorce on children, particularly within the context of the Mormon religion's emphasis on eternal families. Matt shares his non-denominational Christian upbringing, contrasting it with Maddie's background.

00:24:54
Marriage, COVID-19, and Shared Humor

Matt and Maddie discuss their discussions about marriage and how the COVID-19 pandemic accelerated their relationship, leading to them spending all their time together and even contracting the virus simultaneously. They highlight their shared sense of humor and complementary comedic styles.

00:27:01
The \"Good Good\" Golf Company and Maddie's Introduction to Golf

Matt explains the origins and business model of \"Good Good,\" a golf company he co-owns, which creates YouTube content and sells apparel. Maddie shares her initial aversion to golf due to a negative childhood experience but explains how Matt's involvement led her to enjoy the sport. A sponsorship from Omaha Steaks is also featured.

00:31:40
\"Bro 5\" Failure, Business Growth, and Life in Texas

Matt reveals that \"Good Good\" was their second business venture, following the failure of \"Bro 5,\" and discusses the lessons learned. He also touches upon the anxieties of having investors and maintaining ownership. The couple discusses their current life in Texas, its suitability for golf, and the presence of cicadas.

00:38:51
Community, Family, and Unplanned Pregnancy

The couple emphasizes the strong community they've built in Texas and the value of having family nearby, especially with a baby on the way. They discuss their \"unplanned\" pregnancy, humorously referencing their contraception methods, and share their surprise and joy.

00:41:02
Health Struggles and Pregnancy as Relief

Maddie details her struggles with extremely painful periods and her journey to find natural healing methods, including dietary changes, and her diagnosis of endometriosis. She expresses how pregnancy has been a relief from her period pain, despite other discomforts, and mentions a non-refundable deposit for endometriosis surgery. A sponsorship from Haya Health is also included.

00:48:20
Anticipating Fatherhood and Parenthood Unknowns

Matt discusses his anticipation of fatherhood, believing the full realization will come later, and emphasizes his role in supporting Maddie. They acknowledge the significant unknowns and challenges of becoming parents, expressing excitement and a willingness to navigate the journey together. Matt expresses a strong feeling that he was destined to be a \"girl dad.\"

00:50:47
Personal Adoption Story: Early Life and Separation

The speaker discusses family dynamics and shares a personal adoption story. She recounts her childhood hardships in Russia after her mother's death, including her older sister taking on parental responsibilities due to parental alcoholism. The heartbreaking separation of siblings when placed in orphanages is detailed.

00:58:06
The Path to Adoption and Life in America

The speaker details how her adoptive parents found an advertisement for Russian adoptions and decided to adopt. She describes the experience of arriving in the US, the initial adjustments, and the emotional difficulty of returning to Russia before the adoption was finalized. Reflections on adoption bans and global conflicts are shared.

01:07:46
Considering Adoption and Navigating Challenges

The speaker discusses the decision to start their own family and their ongoing consideration of adoption, acknowledging the complexities. Insights into the challenges of adopting older children, including dealing with existing trauma and forming parent-child bonds, are shared. Childhood defiance and parental resilience are also reflected upon.

01:10:16
Celebrating Success and Audience Questions

The speaker acknowledges the \"American dream\" narrative, highlighting her journey from Russia to becoming a successful YouTuber and entrepreneur. The hosts address audience questions about paternity leave, future travel plans, and baby name speculation, engaging in a lighthearted discussion.

01:17:15
\"Who's More Likely?\" Games and LDS Culture

The hosts play several rounds of the \"Who's More Likely?\" game, focusing on new parenting scenarios, relationship dynamics, and parenting styles. They also discuss LDS culture, including terminology shifts from \"Mormon\" to \"LDS,\" and beverage choices at Utah weddings.

01:33:43
Online Presence, Comment Sections, and Final Predictions

The hosts discuss the impact of online comments, the tendency to focus on negativity, and the challenges of interpreting sarcasm. They share their preferred online platforms for connection and engage in a final round of baby name predictions, with a humorous focus on Star Wars-themed names like Leia.

Keywords

TikTok Couple


Social media influencers who gain popularity on TikTok, sharing aspects of their relationship and daily lives.

Adoption Story


A personal narrative detailing the process and experiences of adopting a child, including emotional journeys and challenges.

Relationship Timeline


The progression of a romantic relationship, including key milestones like meeting, moving in, and marriage.

Content Creation


Producing digital content for online platforms like TikTok and YouTube, often for entertainment or marketing.

Mormon Culture


Distinct social, cultural, and religious practices associated with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

Religious Upbringing


Being raised within a specific religious tradition, shaping an individual's worldview and beliefs.

Golf Company


A business focused on the sport of golf, involved in content creation, apparel sales, and professional events.

Unplanned Pregnancy


A pregnancy that was not intentionally planned, often leading to surprise and adjustments.

Endometriosis


A medical condition where tissue similar to the lining of the uterus grows outside the uterus, causing pain.

Fatherhood Transition


The process and emotional adjustment men experience as they transition into the role of a father.

Adoption from Russia


The process of legally adopting children from Russia, involving international laws and cultural differences.

Sibling Separation


The act of separating siblings, often due to circumstances like entering orphanages, causing emotional distress.

Paternity Leave


Time off work granted to a father following the birth or adoption of a child.

LDS Culture


Cultural practices, beliefs, and social norms associated with members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.

\"Who's More Likely?\" Game


A conversational game used to reveal personality traits and relationship dynamics in a humorous way.

Star Wars Names


Names of characters within the Star Wars universe, discussed in the context of potential baby names.

Q&A

  • How did Matt and Maddie meet?

    Matt and Maddie met online on TikTok in November 2019. Maddie was impressed by Matt's Jack Sparrow impression and commented on his video, which led to them connecting and eventually starting a long-distance relationship.

  • What is the \"Good Good\" company?

    \"Good Good\" is a golf company co-owned by Matt and his friends. They create golf content for YouTube, sell apparel, and are involved in professional golf events, aiming to establish themselves as a significant brand in the golf space.

  • Can you explain Maddie's experience with painful periods and endometriosis?

    Maddie has suffered from extremely painful periods throughout her adult life, which she attributes partly to endometriosis. She has explored natural healing methods and was scheduled for surgery shortly before discovering her pregnancy.

  • How did the COVID-19 pandemic impact Matt and Maddie's relationship?

    The pandemic accelerated their relationship significantly. They spent all their time together, even quarantining together after contracting the virus, which solidified their bond and led to a rapid progression in their relationship milestones.

  • What are Matt's thoughts on becoming a father?

    Matt believes the full realization of fatherhood will come later, as mothers often have a more immediate bond due to breastfeeding and constant caregiving. He plans to focus on supporting Maddie and minimizing stress in the household.

  • What was the significance of their engagement in Greece?

    Their engagement in Greece was special because it was a double engagement, with another couple also getting engaged during the same trip. This created a unique and joyful shared experience for both couples.

  • How did Maddie's upbringing in Mormon culture influence her decisions?

    Maddie felt constrained by the strict Mormon culture in Utah and sought to break away from it. Her desire for independence and a different life path led her to move to Texas and pursue her relationship with Matt.

  • What is the Rover app, and how do Matt and Maddie use it?

    Rover is a pet care service platform. Matt and Maddie use it to find a pet sitter who comes to their home twice a day to check on, play with, and care for their cats while they are away.

  • What were some of the challenges faced by the speaker and her siblings in Russia after their mother's death?

    After their mother's death, the speaker and her siblings faced significant hardship. Their older sister, at just 11 years old, had to take on parental responsibilities. They struggled with basic needs like finding their next meal, and their father also struggled with alcoholism, leading to neglect.

  • How did the speaker's adoptive parents find out about the possibility of adopting from Russia?

    The speaker's adoptive parents discovered the possibility of adopting from Russia through an advertisement they found in a newspaper, which led them to attend a seminar about international adoptions.

  • What is the significance of the shift from using the term \"Mormon\" to \"LDS\" or \"Latter-day Saints\"?

    The shift from \"Mormon\" to \"LDS\" or \"Latter-day Saints\" was officially requested by the Church's prophet to emphasize the full name of the Church and its members, moving away from a nickname that some felt was not fully representative or was sometimes associated with negative connotations due to cultural references like \"The Book of Mormon\" musical.

  • What is unique about the Star Wars character name Leia?

    Leia is considered one of the few female names in Star Wars that isn't derived from a tool, making it a more conventional and potentially usable name compared to others in the franchise.

Show Notes

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Maddie Henderson and Matt Scharff join us for a fun, honest conversation about their whirlwind love story—from meeting online to moving in fast and now preparing for their first baby. Matt opens up about his adoption from Russia, we answer your audience questions, and wrap it all up with a chaotic round of Who’s More Likely. 💛




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Chapters:


01:01 - Love Story


10:27 - Archives of TikTok


15:51 - Leaving Utah


20:17 - Divorce in the LDS church 


23:05 - Future planning 


25:24 - Good Good 


36:45 - Baby girl!


46:30 - Adopted from Russia 


01:05:53 - Questions from audience 


01:22:07 - Who's More Likely?

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