DiscoverDialogues: The David Zwirner PodcastAn Art Historian’s View of How We Got Here with Jonathan Crary
An Art Historian’s View of How We Got Here with Jonathan Crary

An Art Historian’s View of How We Got Here with Jonathan Crary

Update: 2025-05-21
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Helen Molesworth speaks to art historian and culture critic Jonathan Crary, whose recent books Scorched Earth and 24/7 constitute both a polemic against what he calls the “internet complex”—and a diagnosis of where society is now.




Jonathan Crary is Meyer Schapiro Professor of Modern Art and Theory at Columbia University and is a founding coeditor of Zone Books.



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An Art Historian’s View of How We Got Here with Jonathan Crary

An Art Historian’s View of How We Got Here with Jonathan Crary

David Zwirner