For the latest Scots Whay Hae! podcast Ali catches up with previous guest, the writer and poet Andrés N. Ordorica to hear all about his debut novel How We Named The Stars, which is published with Saraband Books.

Andrés talks about why this was a story he wanted to tell, creating the central characters of Daniel and Sam, writing in the second person, bringing the reader into the book, writing about love and loss and how that can change both reader and writer, the structure of the novel, and his approach to populating it with a supporting cast.

The two also discuss how Andrés engages readers' senses in both How We Named The Stars and with his poetry, the differences between the two forms, and what's coming next. They also look forward to this year's Edinburgh Book Festival where Andrés will be appearing, and chat about the wider affects of Festival season on the city itself.

Andrés is one of our favourite writers, and How We Named The Stars is not only a stunning debut, it's one of the most moving and emotional reads of this year, or any year, and it was a pleasure to get such a personal and thoughtful insight.

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