Digest

This episode of the Dopey Podcast features a lengthy interview with comedian Artie Lang, who shares his extensive history with addiction, his journey through recovery, and various life experiences. Host Dave provides context, shares listener stories, and discusses the origins and purpose of the Dopey podcast. The conversation delves into Artie's past struggles with drugs and gambling, his career highs and lows, his complex relationship with the Howard Stern Show, and the principles of 12-step programs. The episode also touches on themes of redemption, family impact, and the realities of addiction, interspersed with listener updates and reflections.

Outlines

00:00:00

Introduction to Dopey Podcast and Artie Lang's Journey

Dave introduces the Dopey podcast, focusing on drugs, addiction, and "dumb shit." He shares a beautiful spring day in NYC and hints at food collaborations. Artie Lang's journey from addiction to recovery is highlighted, contrasting past struggles with current success and encouraging listeners to seek help.

00:06:03

Dopey Greatest Hits & Listener Stories

This segment features a Dopey Greatest Hits selection, focusing on Episode 140 with Artie Lang. It also includes listener stories about overcoming addiction, from pot farms to sobriety, and reflections on finding community in recovery.

00:07:20

Listener Engagement and Updates

Dave reads Spotify comments, celebrating listener milestones in sobriety and sharing relatable stories about addiction. He also addresses listener requests for updates from past guests and suggestions for future guests.

00:12:11

The Artie Lang Interview Begins: Chemistry and Fame

Dave introduces the Artie Lang interview, acknowledging his own interviewing style and Artie's preference for Chris. Artie comments on the chemistry between Dave and Chris and discusses the nature of fame and recognition.

00:15:27

Addiction, Influences, and Early Experiences

The discussion explores early influences on addiction, such as movies, and reflects on the age of first substance use. It touches upon the connection to the Howard Stern show and the personal impact of listening to it during active addiction.

00:16:31

Podcast Operations, Sponsorships, and Shared Addiction Experiences

Dave explains the reasons behind erased podcast episodes and discusses the show's reliance on sponsorships. Artie Lang reveals being high on heroin during his first appearance on the Howard Stern show, a shared experience with Dave, and they discuss how Stern's show felt like a personal connection.

00:17:17

Drug Use, Reality Perception, and Stigma

The conversation delves into how drug use affects perception of reality. Dave and Artie Lang discuss their journeys as success stories despite past IV drug use, acknowledging the lasting impact and stigma.

00:17:54

Redemption, 12-Step Programs, and Honesty

The discussion explores redemption through overcoming adversity, comparing historical figures. Artie Lang praises the people in 12-step programs and discusses the importance of honesty, meetings, and accountability, even admitting to past dishonesty.

00:19:20

Anonymity, Sobriety for the Podcast, and Higher Power

Dave discusses the challenges of anonymity in recovery due to public recognition. The conversation touches on the concept of a "higher power" in 12-step programs, its interpretation, and evolution.

00:21:15

Critiques of Russell Brand and Fear of Recognition

The discussion touches on Russell Brand's recovery and critiques his film "Arthur." Dave expresses concern about attending meetings due to fear of recognition.

00:22:41

Maintaining Sobriety, Legal Obligations, and Doubts

Artie Lang discusses his current focus on staying out of jail, probation, and drug testing. He expresses concerns about the stability of his sobriety and his distrust of Suboxone, admitting past abuse.

00:24:23

Early Alcohol Experience and its Deceptive Nature

Artie Lang recounts his first experience with alcohol at age 12, recognizing it as an immediate solution. The conversation explores how alcohol can initially seem like a solution but later becomes a problem, highlighting the deceptive nature of addiction.

00:25:27

The Nature of Addiction, Risk-Taking, and Dave's Pursuit

Dave and Artie Lang discuss the inherent risk-taking in addiction and its destructive patterns. Artie describes Dave's persistent efforts to get him on the podcast as "stalky" but acknowledges Dave's genuine concern.

00:26:20

Stability of Sobriety, Continuous Work, and 12-Step Principles

Dave questions the stability of sobriety and the fear of relapse. Artie Lang emphasizes that sobriety requires continuous work and honesty. The discussion touches on the principles of 12-step programs and their Christian roots, adapted for inclusivity.

00:27:57

Dopey Podcast Genesis and Artie's Stories

Dave explains how Artie Lang's stories from the Howard Stern Show were a major inspiration for the Dopey podcast, initially focusing on retelling others' experiences before sharing their own. Artie discusses how addiction can lead to compelling storytelling rooted in truth.

00:29:34

Artie Lang's Upcoming Book and Psychology of Risk

Artie Lang reveals he has a third book coming out, exploring the psychosis of his problems and his need for risk and action. The book delves into his deep-seated need for risk beyond finances, encompassing his life, health, and relationships.

00:30:43

Chaos of Addiction, Relationships, and Performing Under Influence

Artie Lang reflects on the destructive impact of addiction on his relationships. He recounts performing stand-up comedy while in full-blown withdrawals and under the influence of unknown pills, describing disorienting experiences and loss of control.

00:31:40

Disastrous Performances and Infamous Stories

Artie Lang details disastrous comedy performances due to drug use, leading to audience dissatisfaction. He recounts the infamous story of shitting his pants while dressed as Santa Claus and playing Santa at a strip club amidst heavy cocaine use.

00:33:24

The \"Shitty Pants\" Incident and Realizing Addiction's Severity

Artie Lang recounts the embarrassing incident of accidentally shitting his pants after heavy drinking, forcing him to walk home naked. He reflects on this moment as a realization of the severity of his addiction.

00:37:21

Romanticizing Early Drug Use and Career Setbacks

Dave discusses how early drug use can be romanticized. Artie Lang describes how cocaine addiction led to chaos and career setbacks, including being fired from "Mad TV" after an altercation with a police officer.

00:38:25

Success, Financial Ruin, and Gambling Debt Consequences

Artie Lang details his success on "Mad TV" and significant earnings, but describes how gambling and drug use led to financial ruin and debt. He explains the severe consequences of not paying gambling debts, including potential violence.

00:40:56

Arrest, Jail Time, and Parental Support

Artie Lang recounts being arrested and serving jail time for assaulting a police officer. He shares an anecdote about Quincy Jones making calls on his behalf while he was in jail and how his mother's savings helped him pay off debts after his release.

00:44:13

Working Off Debts and Introduction to Roofing

Artie Lang discusses the grim reality of working off gambling debts through manual labor. The speaker repeatedly states "I'm going to get a roof," indicating a focus on roofing as a topic.

01:18:08

Early Life, Disastrous Endings, and Intervention

The speaker recounts a past filled with vices like gambling and drug use, funded by an endless supply of money. This period ended disastrously with arrests and a psychiatric ward stay, marking the end of his TV show. A severe depressive episode led to hospitalization, followed by intervention, detox, and rehab.

01:28:09

Rehab, Relapse, and Career Resurgence

After rehab, the speaker took on voiceover work for free treatment. Despite an initial relapse, he eventually found sobriety and began rebuilding his career through stand-up comedy, experiencing a rapid comeback with successful gigs and new opportunities.

01:31:24

Personal Reflections, Family Impact, and Mother's Strength

The speaker reflects on his identity, career success, and the damage his addictions have caused his family, acknowledging their sacrifices. He discusses his mother's unwavering support, resilience, and constant worry for his well-being.

01:33:26

Father's Legacy, Overcoming Adversity, and Family Strength

The speaker imagines a one-man show about his life, wishing his father could have witnessed his successes. He emphasizes the strength derived from his mother and sister in overcoming challenges and the importance of continuing to show up.

01:33:50

The Lasting Impact of Addiction on Family

The speaker acknowledges that family suffers most from addiction and shares his father's ongoing panic if he doesn't return calls, highlighting the lasting effects. He reflects on his father's guilt and the importance of taking care of his mother and sister.

01:34:37

Life's Uncertainties, Simple Desires, and Podcast Failure

The speaker contemplates a simpler life, questioning if addiction was avoidable and expressing a desire for his mother's happiness. He candidly discusses the financial and impactful failure of his podcast, admitting he lost money and it had no significant reach.

01:35:51

Fan Interaction, Authenticity, and Fun Without Drugs

The speaker recalls meeting Dave and appreciating his genuine vibe and support. He discusses his popularity stemming from authenticity rather than talent and questions if enjoyment is possible without drug use, concluding he is a better performer sober.

01:38:05

Hypothetical Scenarios and Friendship Dynamics

The speaker poses hypothetical scenarios, including who would confront Howard Stern first in a crisis. He reflects on Gary's supportive role in his career, acknowledging their arguments but valuing their friendship and Gary's contributions to radio.

01:38:52

Critiques of Howard Stern and Dedication

The speaker criticizes Howard Stern for repeatedly playing voicemails for mockery, deeming it harsh. He praises Stern's consistent dedication to his show and acknowledges his capacity to distance himself from people.

01:41:08

The New Show, Podcast Failure, and Addiction's Impact on Lateness

The speaker humorously discusses the new show and Howard Stern's perceived role. He reiterates the podcast's failure, admitting financial losses and blaming a company for fudged numbers. He describes his addiction-fueled lateness to the podcast.

01:43:23

Comedians' Struggles and Past Experiences

The speaker jokes about comedians' lateness and struggles, contrasting them with other professions. He recalls a joke about not wanting to be a waiter in a deli, reflecting on his past and current circumstances.

01:43:58

The \"White Whale\" Pursuit and Rehab Reflections

The speaker compares his pursuit of Artie to Ahab's pursuit of the white whale. He mentions rehab and Chris's inability to fake laughter, suggesting a need to leave the current situation.

01:44:24

Spontaneous Hospital Visit and Howard Stern Connection

The speaker recounts visiting Robin in the hospital, sharing a moment of normalcy with Howard. He reflects on Howard Stern's need for space but acknowledges a genuine connection, despite not speaking since their last encounter.

01:46:26

Father's Influence, \"Arty-Lang Hurricane,\" and Saying Goodbye

The speaker shares how his father introduced him to the Howard Stern show, a significant bonding element. He describes his self-destructive behavior, termed the "Arty-Lang hurricane," and discusses changing his phone number and the finality of goodbyes.

01:47:51

Belief in the Afterlife and Mystery of Existence

The speaker expresses skepticism about the afterlife but hopes for souls to reunite. He contemplates the origins of humanity and the universe, suggesting a greater plan or alien technology. He chooses to believe his deceased father exists in the ether.

01:48:50

Intellectuals, Faith, and Remembering a Friend

The speaker discusses how intellectuals often reject faith due to a lack of proof but acknowledges their underlying struggle for meaning. He is deeply affected by the recent death of his friend, Todd, who struggled with addiction and died of an overdose.

01:50:11

Todd's Struggle, Overdose, and the Tragedy of Addiction

The speaker recounts Todd's death from a heroin overdose, emphasizing his aversion to needles and his struggle with addiction. He reflects on the tragic deaths of friends due to addiction, feeling an obligation to those still struggling.

01:51:57

Weight of Success, Obligation, and AA Dogma

The speaker feels an obligation to those struggling with addiction, believing his success offers hope. He critiques the all-or-nothing approach of AA, emphasizing the value of continuous effort and trying in recovery.

01:52:31

Fun in Recovery and Public Image

The speaker asserts he is having fun in recovery and encourages embracing enjoyment. He discusses how celebrities' lives are presented in magazines, leading to envy and eventual disappointment when reality doesn't match the image.

01:53:33

Howard Stern's \"Bromance\" and Artie's Departure

The speaker humorously points out Howard Stern's "bromance" with Orlando Bloom. He thanks Artie for appearing and discusses Chris's emotional reaction to Todd's story and the humorous circumstances of Todd's firing.

01:54:39

Todd's Need for Money, Firing, and the \"White Whale\"

The speaker explains Todd's firing was due to needing money for drugs, leading to a misunderstanding with a dealer. He reflects on his pursuit of Artie, comparing it to Ahab's quest, and acknowledges the end of that pursuit.

01:54:59

Todd's Story, Customer Complaint, and Comedians' Legacies

The podcast recounts a story about a waiter named Todd who asked a couple to tip in cash, leading to a complaint and his firing. The hosts discuss various comedians, including Artie, Patrice O'Neill, and Chris, reflecting on past experiences and drug use.

01:58:39

Reflections on Artie, Show's Future, and New Stories

The hosts reflect on Artie's appearance, the possibility of a two-part episode, and express hope for Artie's continued sobriety. Artie shares a new story about a seizure, and the hosts discuss personal experiences.

02:00:50

Closing Remarks, Dedications, and Poem Recitation

The hosts encourage listeners to "Stay strong, dopey nation" and dedicate the episode to Chris and Todd. They thank individuals who have helped with the podcast and recite a poem titled "The Autumn Wind."

02:02:11

Remembering Chris and Todd, Final Thanks

The hosts discuss their last interactions with Chris and Todd, reflecting on the significance of the episode and expressing hope for Artie's recovery. They express gratitude to contributors and sign off.

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Q&A

• What is the Dopey podcast about?

  The Dopey podcast focuses on discussions about drugs, addiction, and "dumb shit," featuring personal stories and reflections on recovery.

• Who was a significant guest featured in the Dopey Greatest Hits episode?

  A significant guest featured was Artie Lang, a comedian known for his candid discussions about addiction and recovery.

• What are the core principles of 12-step programs mentioned?

  Key principles include honesty, open-mindedness, and willingness, considered crucial for sobriety and growth.

• How does Artie Lang describe people in 12-step programs?

  He describes them as the best people he's ever met, emphasizing their genuine desire to help others.

• What was Artie Lang's experience performing stand-up while struggling with addiction?

  He recounts performing in severe withdrawals and under the influence, describing it as robotic and challenging, sometimes involving loss of control.

• What is the significance of the "shitty pants" story?

  It's a darkly humorous anecdote illustrating the extreme lows of Artie Lang's addiction, serving as a moment of realization about his problem's severity.

• How did Artie Lang's gambling addiction impact his career and finances?

  It led to severe financial problems, debt, and contributed to him being fired from "Mad TV" after an altercation.

• What is the main topic of this transcript?

  The main topic appears to be roofing, indicated by repeated phrases like "I'm going to get a roof."

• What vices did the speaker struggle with in his past?

  The speaker struggled with gambling, drug use, and engaging with sex workers.

• What event led to the speaker's hospitalization in 2010?

  The speaker stabbed himself and drank Clorox, leading to hospitalization, a psych ward stay, and rehab.

Show Notes