Originally posted on the Unraveling Religion podcast, Joel David Lesses lassoed Rich Grego and Lisa Carley into a conversation recorded weaving threads through time and space and love, itself.

This conversation meanders among these three old, dear friends, and touches on nihilism, dissolution, and romanticism, Dharma decay and Dharma renewal, changes and transformations.

Is there room for Hope in the world today?

Optimism?

Does the state of the world allow a falling away so that things might improve, a sense something better might come.

What does Enlightenment look like?

What does Enlightenment feel like?

Rich, Lisa, and Joel explore aspects of the existential path requiring courage and bravery, and the conversation deconstructs aspects of the work required to build a strong existential or spiritual foundation. 

They continue to examine challenging and evolving social constructs, darkness versus light, mission and meaning and purpose, how do we find mission, meaning, and purpose?

Asking 'how' versus asking 'why?'

Fundamentally, what makes us feel we are far from where we should be, what makes us feel we are far from 'home.' 

Lisa, Rich, and Joel explore knowing the 'why' and knowing the 'big picture' versus being in the flow of life.

The talk continues in the examination of life asking 'What is being asked of me?

What do I need to learn about this situation?

What do I need to perceive in this situation?'

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