In the latest episode of Sounds Strategic, Meia Nouwens is joined by to Euan Graham and Nick Childs to discuss Australia’s relationship with China, and what role AUKUS plays in Australia’s defence and alliance policy settings.   

The speakers assess Australia’s policy towards China following a souring of bilateral relations and discuss what AUKUS aims to achieve in the shot and medium terms. They also touch on potential lessons for other countries of how to respond to economic and diplomatic coercive policies.  

Host and speakers:  

Meia Nouwens, Senior Fellow for Chinese Security and Defence Policy | Twitter: @MeiaNouwens  

Dr Euan Graham, Shangri-La Dialogue Senior Fellow for Indo-Pacific Defence and Strategy | Twitter: @graham_euan 

Nick Childs, Senior Fellow for Naval Forces and Maritime Security | Twitter: @ChildsNJ 

Further reading:  

The Adelphi Series: Australia’s Security in China’s Shadow | Published on 21 March 2023 

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Date of recording: 24 March 2023  

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