Baba Wayne Curtis is a beloved elder, artist, farmer, former Black Panther, and visionary organizer, along with Mama Myrtle, at their farm, a gathering place on the far east side of Detroit, Feedom Freedom Growers. We talked on his front porch on a rainy Sunday afternoon. You will hear the rainstorm, the wind, the traffic, and the birds. You’ll also hear Baba Wayne’s reflections on revealing what has not yet been seen, what Grace Lee Boggs and Jimmy Boggs might say about these times of transition, how the neighborhood ducks have evolved for the urban environment, and what collective sustainability means to him. 

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