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Biden Drops Out, a USA Hoops Six-Pack, and ‘Heat 2’ Ideas With Bryan Curtis, Tara Palmeri, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan

Biden Drops Out, a USA Hoops Six-Pack, and ‘Heat 2’ Ideas With Bryan Curtis, Tara Palmeri, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan

Update: 2024-07-217
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The Ringer Fantasy Football Show kicks off with Danny Hyfe introducing the podcast and highlighting its off-season coverage of NFL news and topics. He also promotes other Ringer podcasts and the Rewatchables, a show dedicated to rewatching classic movies. The podcast then delves into the news of Joe Biden dropping out of the 2024 presidential race, with Brian Curtis and Terrapal Mary providing insights and analysis on the political landscape. The discussion shifts to Team USA basketball, with Danny Hyfe analyzing the roster for the upcoming Olympics, identifying key players, potential bench roles, and the impact of injuries on the team's performance. The podcast then explores the potential for a "Heat" 2 movie, with Michael Mann's recent comments suggesting it's in development. The discussion explores the potential cast, story, and the impact of a sequel on the legacy of the original film. The hosts debate the desired tone of the sequel, considering whether it should be a more serious, Michael Mann-style film or a more lighthearted, B-movie style. They ultimately decide that they prefer a more serious approach, staying true to the original film's style. The hosts also discuss the possibility of setting the sequel in the future, focusing on the children of the original characters. They envision a story where Chris's son and Sizemore's son are now adults, potentially working together in a similar line of work as their fathers. They propose a documentary-style approach, focusing on the lives of the original characters' children, leading to a potential reunion and a new story.

Outlines

00:00:00
Ringer Fantasy Football Show Overview

Danny Hyfe introduces the Ringer Fantasy Football Show, highlighting its off-season coverage of NFL news and topics, as well as the potential for heated arguments. He also promotes other Ringer podcasts and the Rewatchables, a show dedicated to rewatching classic movies.

00:00:06
Upcoming Podcast Topics and Guests

Danny Hyfe outlines the podcast's upcoming schedule, including discussions on Olympic basketball, the Heat 2 movie, and a political analysis with Terrapal Mary, Brian Curtis, and Bill Simmons.

00:02:10
Joe Biden Drops Out of the 2024 Presidential Race

The podcast dives into the news of Joe Biden dropping out of the 2024 presidential race, with Brian Curtis and Terrapal Mary providing insights and analysis on the political landscape.

00:04:16
Team USA Basketball: Roster Analysis

Danny Hyfe analyzes the Team USA basketball roster for the upcoming Olympics, identifying key players, potential bench roles, and the impact of injuries on the team's performance.

00:07:06
Heat 2: Sequel in Development

The podcast discusses the potential for a Heat 2 movie, with Michael Mann's recent comments suggesting it's in development. The discussion explores the potential cast, story, and the impact of a sequel on the legacy of the original film.

01:21:31
Casting Heat: Austin Butler vs. Adam Driver

The discussion centers around the casting of the "Heat" sequel, with the hosts debating whether Austin Butler or Adam Driver would be a better fit for the role. They discuss the strengths and weaknesses of each actor and ultimately decide that Austin Butler is the better choice.

01:23:24
Heat Sequel: Tone and Style

The hosts debate the desired tone of the "Heat" sequel, considering whether it should be a more serious, Michael Mann-style film or a more lighthearted, B-movie style. They ultimately decide that they prefer a more serious approach, staying true to the original film's style.

01:24:19
Heat Sequel: Future-Set Story

The hosts discuss the possibility of setting the "Heat" sequel in the future, focusing on the children of the original characters. They envision a story where Chris's son and Sizemore's son are now adults, potentially working together in a similar line of work as their fathers.

01:25:07
Heat Sequel: Documentary-Style Approach

The hosts propose a documentary-style approach to the "Heat" sequel, focusing on the lives of the original characters' children. They imagine a scenario where Chris's son and Sizemore's son are interviewed for a documentary about the "Heat" crew, leading to a potential reunion and a new story.

Keywords

Ringer Fantasy Football Show


A podcast hosted by Danny Hyfe, Danny Kelly, and Craig Worldbeck, focusing on fantasy football news, analysis, and debates during the NFL off-season.

Rewatchables


A Ringer podcast hosted by Bill Simmons and a rotating cast of co-hosts, dedicated to rewatching and discussing classic movies.

Heat 2


A potential sequel to the 1995 crime film Heat, directed by Michael Mann. The sequel is rumored to be in development and may feature a prequel storyline focusing on the characters of Neil McCauley and Chris Shiherlis.

Michael Mann


An American film director, screenwriter, and producer known for his stylish and gritty crime films, including Heat, Collateral, and Miami Vice.

Joe Biden


The 46th and current president of the United States. He announced his decision to not seek re-election in 2024, creating a significant shift in the political landscape.

Team USA Basketball


The United States men's national basketball team, representing the country in international competitions, including the Olympics. The team is currently preparing for the 2024 Paris Olympics.

Austin Butler


Austin Butler is an American actor known for his roles in "The Carrie Diaries," "Once Upon a Time in Hollywood," and "Elvis." He is known for his charismatic screen presence and his ability to embody complex characters.

Adam Driver


Adam Driver is an American actor known for his roles in "Girls," "Star Wars: The Force Awakens," and "Marriage Story." He is known for his intense and nuanced performances, often portraying characters with complex inner lives.

Q&A

  • What are the key takeaways from Joe Biden's decision to drop out of the 2024 presidential race?

    Biden's withdrawal creates a significant shift in the political landscape, leaving the Democratic party to choose a new nominee. The decision comes after a tumultuous few weeks marked by political turmoil and public scrutiny.

  • What are the potential candidates for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2024?

    Kamala Harris, the current vice president, is considered a frontrunner. Other potential candidates include Gretchen Whitmer, Gavin Newsom, J.B. Pritzker, and Josh Shapiro.

  • What are the key factors to consider when analyzing Team USA's basketball roster for the 2024 Olympics?

    The team's success will depend on the performance of key players like LeBron James, Stephen Curry, and Anthony Davis, as well as the ability to manage injuries and maintain chemistry among the roster.

  • What are the potential implications of Michael Mann's Heat 2 movie for the legacy of the original film?

    A sequel could either enhance the original film's legacy by expanding its universe and exploring new storylines or potentially diminish its impact by failing to live up to the expectations set by the original.

  • What are the strengths and weaknesses of Austin Butler and Adam Driver as potential replacements for Val Kilmer in a "Heat" sequel?

    Austin Butler is a charismatic actor with a strong screen presence, but he may be too young for the role. Adam Driver is a more experienced actor with a more intense style, but he may be too big for the role.

  • What are the different approaches that could be taken for a "Heat" sequel, and which approach is preferred by the hosts?

    The hosts consider a more serious, Michael Mann-style approach or a more lighthearted, B-movie style. They ultimately prefer a more serious approach, staying true to the original film's style.

  • How could the "Heat" sequel be set in the future, and what kind of story could be told?

    The hosts propose a future-set story focusing on the children of the original characters, potentially working together in a similar line of work as their fathers. They envision a documentary-style approach, following the lives of these characters and potentially leading to a reunion and a new story.

Show Notes

The Ringer's Bill Simmons is joined by Bryan Curtis and Puck’s Tara Palmeri to discuss President Joe Biden’s sudden announcement that he’s no longer running for reelection (02:11 ). They dive into what’s next for the Democratic party, whether Vice President Kamala Harris will become the next candidate, Biden’s crumbling inner circle, how Donald Trump’s campaign could shift, and so much more. Next, Bill does a six-pack NBA observation that includes his thoughts on Team USA, Joel Embiid, Jaylen Brown, and more (42:43 ). Also, Bill is joined by The Ringer's own Sean Fennessey and Chris Ryan to discuss some of their ideas for ‘Heat 2’ (01:11:04 ).


Host: Bill Simmons

Guests: Bryan Curtis, Tara Palmeri, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan

Producers: Steve Ceruti and Jessie Lopez 

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Biden Drops Out, a USA Hoops Six-Pack, and ‘Heat 2’ Ideas With Bryan Curtis, Tara Palmeri, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan

Biden Drops Out, a USA Hoops Six-Pack, and ‘Heat 2’ Ideas With Bryan Curtis, Tara Palmeri, Sean Fennessey, and Chris Ryan

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