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Bonus Episode: Madonna, The Rolling Stones, and a Critical Double Standard

Bonus Episode: Madonna, The Rolling Stones, and a Critical Double Standard

Update: 2024-08-291
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This episode of Disgrace Land delves into the critical reception of female artists, particularly Lana Del Rey, comparing her treatment to that of other female artists in rock and pop. The host, Jake, argues that critics often hold women to different standards, highlighting examples like Madonna, The Go-Go's, and Meg White. He then moves on to discuss the 1990s, arguing that it was a peak decade for music and film, engaging with listener feedback and debating the merits of the 1990s versus the 1980s. Jake also highlights the decline in originality in contemporary film. The episode continues with Jake responding to listener emails and voicemails, discussing potential future episodes on artists like John Coltrane, Thelonious Monk, Guy, and Lamb of God. He also acknowledges the ongoing discussion about female artists unfairly treated by critics, particularly Yoko Ono. Jake then encourages listeners to support the show by leaving reviews on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, reading and responding to several reviews, highlighting the show's unique approach and engaging with listener suggestions for future episodes. The episode wraps up with Jake promoting the extended after party for All Access members, discussing the upcoming NFL episode, and the recent news of Oasis's reunion, inviting listeners to share their thoughts and opinions. Finally, Jake announces a rewind episode from the archive, featuring the Rolling Stones, and recaps the episode's key points, including the discussion on Lana Del Rey, the upcoming NFL episode, and the call for listener feedback on the most disgraceful athlete of all time.

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Disgrace Land: Female Artists, 1990s Nostalgia, and Future Episodes

This episode explores the critical reception of female artists, particularly Lana Del Rey, and debates the merits of the 1990s. Jake also discusses potential future episodes on various musicians and athletes.

00:01:00
Lana Del Rey and the Double Standard of Music Criticism

Jake argues that critics often hold women to different standards, highlighting examples like Madonna, The Go-Go's, and Meg White.

00:20:20
The 1990s: A Peak Decade for Music and Film?

Jake continues his discussion about the 1990s, arguing that it was a peak decade for music and film. He engages with listener feedback, debating the merits of the 1990s versus the 1980s, and highlighting the decline in originality in contemporary film.

00:26:22
Listener Feedback and Upcoming Episodes

Jake responds to listener emails and voicemails, discussing potential future episodes on artists like John Coltrane, Thelonious Monk, Guy, and Lamb of God. He also acknowledges the ongoing discussion about female artists unfairly treated by critics, particularly Yoko Ono.

00:35:07
Supporting the Show and Listener Reviews

Jake encourages listeners to support the show by leaving reviews on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. He reads and responds to several reviews, highlighting the show's unique approach and engaging with listener suggestions for future episodes.

00:36:50
The After Party Continues and Oasis Reunion

Jake wraps up the episode by promoting the extended after party for All Access members. He also discusses the upcoming NFL episode and the recent news of Oasis's reunion, inviting listeners to share their thoughts and opinions.

Keywords

Lana Del Rey


An American singer-songwriter known for her melancholic and introspective lyrics, often exploring themes of love, loss, and nostalgia.

Yoko Ono


A Japanese avant-garde artist and musician, known for her experimental music and performance art. She is also known for her relationship with John Lennon, the former Beatle.

John Coltrane


An American jazz saxophonist and composer, known for his innovative and experimental approach to jazz music.

Thelonious Monk


An American jazz pianist and composer, known for his unique and challenging style of playing.

Lamb of God


An American heavy metal band known for their aggressive sound and politically charged lyrics.

Disgrace Land


A podcast that delves into the darker side of entertainment and culture, exploring the lives and scandals of musicians, actors, and other public figures.

All Access


A membership program for Disgrace Land, offering exclusive content, ad-free listening, and early access to merch and events.

Q&A

  • What are some examples of female artists who have been unfairly treated by music critics?

    Jake argues that Madonna, The Go-Go's, Meg White, and Lana Del Rey are examples of female artists who have been held to different standards by critics, often being dismissed or criticized for qualities that are celebrated in male artists.

  • What is Jake's opinion on the 1990s?

    Jake believes the 1990s were a peak decade for music and film, highlighting the originality and quality of releases from that era. He argues that contemporary film lacks the same level of originality, relying heavily on franchises, reboots, and sequels.

  • What are some of the potential future episodes Jake is considering for Disgrace Land?

    Jake mentions potential episodes on John Coltrane, Thelonious Monk, Guy, Lamb of God, and Yoko Ono, based on listener feedback and his own interests. He also expresses a desire to explore the darker side of sports, particularly the NFL.

  • How can listeners support Disgrace Land?

    Jake encourages listeners to support the show by leaving reviews on Apple Podcasts and Spotify, joining the All Access membership program, and engaging with him on social media. He also offers free merch to listeners who leave reviews.

Show Notes

This week in the After Party, Jake wrestles wonders why certain artists, especially female artists, have a harder time with the critics and the press. Plus, Jake gets your takes on if the 90s really were "peak life." As we prepare for next week's episode on the sordid criminal history of the National Football League we want to know: Who is the most disgraceful athlete of all time? Let Jake know at 617-906-6638, disgracelandpod@gmail.com, or on socials @disgracelandpod.

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Bonus Episode: Madonna, The Rolling Stones, and a Critical Double Standard

Bonus Episode: Madonna, The Rolling Stones, and a Critical Double Standard

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