🎙️ EP126 - Phil and Eric are having breakfast on Zurriola beach—coffee in hand, cheesecake on their laps—and diving into philosophical food talks. ☕🧀 From their dinner at Muka to how a dish becomes “tradition” in just 20 years, they explore why the gesture matters more than the recipe, and what it really means to recognize magic in cooking.

🎧 Topics Covered in This Episode:

🧀 Blue Cheese Cheesecake?! – The secret ingredient at AMA and why you can’t taste it—but you’d miss it.

🍪 Cookie Crust Debate – Eric’s favorite Basque-style cheesecake isn’t from Spain—and it has a cookie crust.

🔥 Pil-Pil Sauce Explained – How Mugaritz hacked fish gelatin to make this iconic Basque sauce from anything.

🌍 What is Tradition, Really? – Why Basque cheesecake feels ancient but isn’t even legal drinking age.

🥄 Basque Cuisine in One Word – Subtleness vs. Pure—how they define the style that shaped their cooking.

🥔 The Gesture vs. The Recipe – Tortilla, rice, and why attention to detail makes or breaks a dish.

🎯 What is Intuition in Cooking? – Experience, passion, and the intellect behind “just knowing.”

✨ Recognizing Magic – The chef’s true job: spotting extraordinary flavors others might overlook.

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