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Bring Back Shame

Bring Back Shame

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This podcast episode covers a wide range of topics, from pop culture and social issues to personal updates and listener letters. The hosts, Halle Bailey and her co-host, discuss Angela Bassett's Emmy win, James Geter's historic achievement as the first Black Creative Director at Ralph Lauren, and Beyonce's influence on the cultural landscape. They delve into Beyonce's recent "Sacred Watch Day" video, highlighting her natural speaking voice and the joy it brings. The hosts also discuss the ongoing drama between rapper Ice Spice and comedian CleoTrap, who was an opening act on Ice Spice's tour. CleoTrap alleges mistreatment, including unpaid wages and lack of support, while Ice Spice denies the claims. The hosts share their reactions to the recent debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, highlighting Trump's anger and Harris's ability to handle his attacks. They discuss the significance of Taylor Swift's endorsement of Harris and the overall political landscape. The hosts discuss the announcement of Kendrick Lamar as the headliner for the 2025 Super Bowl halftime show and the controversy surrounding the choice, with many fans expressing disappointment that Lil Wayne, who is from New Orleans, was not selected. The hosts read and respond to listener letters, offering advice on navigating personal relationships and dealing with difficult situations. They also discuss the latest season of The Challenge on MTV, focusing on the return of familiar faces, Derek's haircut, and the questionable behavior of some contestants. The hosts express frustration with the treatment of a particular female contestant and question the motivations behind her elimination attempts. The hosts discuss the recent passing of Rich Homie Quan and the inappropriate behavior of some women who posted videos of themselves with him after his death. They argue that while shame is often discouraged, there are times when it is necessary, particularly in situations involving grief and respect for the deceased. The hosts discuss the recent school shooting in Oxford, Michigan, focusing on the role of the father in the tragedy. They criticize the father's behavior and the media's initial focus on a Black student who was actually a victim. They emphasize the importance of responsible parenting and the need to address systemic issues that contribute to violence. The hosts express their relief that Torrey Lanez's recording equipment was confiscated in prison, preventing him from releasing more music. They argue that prison is meant to restrict freedoms and that inmates should not have access to the same opportunities as those outside. The hosts discuss the game "Supermarket Simulator" and how it highlights the realities of capitalism and workplace injustice. They criticize the game's depiction of exploitative labor practices and the ease with which players can become "Jeff Bezos" figures.

Outlines

00:00:00
Introduction, Personal Updates, and Black News

The podcast begins with Halle Bailey, Head of Security for LED Elephant, sharing her busy work life and the challenges of managing fans. She then discusses her feelings, which are not great, but she's looking forward to therapy. The hosts discuss Angela Bassett winning her first Emmy for her work on "Queens," James Geter's historic achievement as the first Black Creative Director at Ralph Lauren, and Beyonce's influence on the cultural landscape.

00:07:56
Beyonce's "Sacred Watch Day" Video and Ice Spice and CleoTrap Drama

The hosts delve into Beyonce's recent "Sacred Watch Day" video, highlighting her natural speaking voice and the joy it brings. They discuss her playful attitude and the significance of her direct communication with fans. The hosts discuss the ongoing drama between rapper Ice Spice and comedian CleoTrap, who was an opening act on Ice Spice's tour. CleoTrap alleges mistreatment, including unpaid wages and lack of support, while Ice Spice denies the claims.

00:25:55
Kamala Harris and Donald Trump Debate and Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl Halftime Show

The hosts share their reactions to the recent debate between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump, highlighting Trump's anger and Harris's ability to handle his attacks. They discuss the significance of Taylor Swift's endorsement of Harris and the overall political landscape. The hosts discuss the announcement of Kendrick Lamar as the headliner for the 2025 Super Bowl halftime show. They address the controversy surrounding the choice, with many fans expressing disappointment that Lil Wayne, who is from New Orleans, was not selected.

01:10:33
Listener Letters and The Challenge

The hosts read and respond to listener letters. The first letter is from Harrison, a queer black man in his late 20s, who is unsure about his feelings for a friend. The second letter is from Emily, who is trying to mend her friendship with Tulip, who is going through a difficult divorce. The hosts discuss the latest season of The Challenge on MTV, focusing on the return of familiar faces, Derek's haircut, and the questionable behavior of some contestants. They express frustration with the treatment of a particular female contestant and question the motivations behind her elimination attempts.

01:32:57
Social Media Behavior After Death and The Tragedy in Oxford

The hosts discuss the recent passing of Rich Homie Quan and the inappropriate behavior of some women who posted videos of themselves with him after his death. They argue that while shame is often discouraged, there are times when it is necessary, particularly in situations involving grief and respect for the deceased. The hosts discuss the recent school shooting in Oxford, Michigan, focusing on the role of the father in the tragedy. They criticize the father's behavior and the media's initial focus on a Black student who was actually a victim. They emphasize the importance of responsible parenting and the need to address systemic issues that contribute to violence.

01:40:29
Torrey Lanez's Prison Music and Supermarket Simulator

The hosts express their relief that Torrey Lanez's recording equipment was confiscated in prison, preventing him from releasing more music. They argue that prison is meant to restrict freedoms and that inmates should not have access to the same opportunities as those outside. The hosts discuss the game "Supermarket Simulator" and how it highlights the realities of capitalism and workplace injustice. They criticize the game's depiction of exploitative labor practices and the ease with which players can become "Jeff Bezos" figures.

Keywords

Beyonce


A globally renowned singer, songwriter, and actress known for her powerful vocals, elaborate stage performances, and influential music.

Ice Spice


A rising rapper known for her unique style and catchy songs. She has gained significant popularity in recent years, particularly for her hit song "Munch."

CleoTrap


A rapper and comedian who has gained attention for her comedic skits and music. She has also been involved in several controversies, including her recent allegations against Ice Spice.

Kamala Harris


The current Vice President of the United States, known for her legal background, political career, and role in the Biden administration.

Donald Trump


The 45th President of the United States, known for his controversial policies, outspoken personality, and divisive rhetoric.

Kendrick Lamar


A critically acclaimed rapper and songwriter known for his complex lyrics, innovative sound, and social commentary.

Lil Wayne


A renowned rapper and songwriter known for his unique flow, lyrical prowess, and influence on the hip-hop genre.

Rich Homie Quan


An American rapper and singer known for his hit songs "Type of Way" and "Flex (Ooh, Ooh, Ooh)". He passed away in December 2021, sparking discussions about social media behavior and respect for the deceased.

Oxford High School Shooting


A tragic school shooting that occurred in Oxford Township, Michigan, in November 2021. The incident resulted in the deaths of four students and injuries to several others, prompting discussions about gun control, mental health, and parental responsibility.

Torrey Lanez


A Canadian rapper and singer known for his hit songs "LUV" and "Say It\". He was convicted of assault with a firearm in December 2022 for shooting Megan Thee Stallion in 2020.

Q&A

  • What are some of the challenges Halle Bailey faces as Head of Security for LED Elephant?

    Halle discusses the constant battle of managing fans, trying to get them to act respectfully towards the celebrity she protects. She also mentions the need to be careful about what she says around the celebrity, as they have a sharp memory and are quick to catch attitude.

  • What are some of the key takeaways from Beyonce's "Sacred Watch Day" video?

    The hosts highlight Beyonce's natural speaking voice, her playful attitude, and the significance of her direct communication with fans. They also emphasize that she doesn't overshare, making her appearances even more special.

  • What are the main points of contention in the Ice Spice and CleoTrap drama?

    CleoTrap alleges mistreatment on Ice Spice's tour, including unpaid wages, lack of promotion, and inadequate preparation time. Ice Spice denies these claims, suggesting that CleoTrap is entitled and that openers don't receive the same treatment as headliners.

  • What were the highlights of the Kamala Harris and Donald Trump debate?

    The hosts discuss Trump's anger and frustration, Harris's ability to handle his attacks, and the overall political landscape. They also highlight Taylor Swift's endorsement of Harris and the impact it had on the public discourse.

  • Why is there controversy surrounding Kendrick Lamar's selection as the Super Bowl halftime show headliner?

    Many fans are upset that Lil Wayne, who is from New Orleans, was not chosen instead. They argue that it is disrespectful to have Kendrick Lamar perform in New Orleans, as Lil Wayne is a local legend.

  • What advice do the hosts give to Harrison, who is unsure about his feelings for a friend?

    The hosts suggest that Harrison should be clear about his attraction to women, as his friend may not be aware of his sexuality. They encourage him to find a way to express his feelings without making things awkward.

  • What advice do the hosts give to Emily, who is trying to mend her friendship with Tulip, who is going through a difficult divorce?

    The hosts advise Emily to wait for Tulip to find out about her ex-husband's engagement on her own. They believe that it is not Emily's place to break the news, as it could complicate their already fragile friendship.

  • What are some of the key takeaways from the discussion about The Challenge?

    The hosts highlight the return of familiar faces, Derek's unique haircut, and the questionable behavior of some contestants, particularly the targeting of a female contestant for elimination. They question the motivations behind these actions and express frustration with the show's portrayal of certain individuals.

  • How do the hosts feel about the social media behavior of women who posted videos with Rich Homie Quan after his death?

    The hosts express disapproval of this behavior, arguing that it is disrespectful to the deceased and his family. They believe that while shame is often discouraged, there are times when it is necessary, particularly in situations involving grief and respect for the deceased.

  • What are the hosts' main concerns regarding the Oxford High School shooting?

    The hosts criticize the father's role in the tragedy, highlighting his abusive behavior towards his son and the media's initial focus on a Black student who was actually a victim. They emphasize the importance of responsible parenting and the need to address systemic issues that contribute to violence.

  • Why do the hosts feel relieved about Torrey Lanez's recording equipment being confiscated in prison?

    The hosts believe that prison is meant to restrict freedoms and that inmates should not have access to the same opportunities as those outside. They argue that Torrey Lanez's music is of poor quality and that his ability to create it in prison is inappropriate.

  • How does the game "Supermarket Simulator" highlight issues of capitalism and workplace injustice?

    The game depicts exploitative labor practices, such as low wages, long hours, and lack of benefits, and the ease with which players can become wealthy at the expense of their employees. The hosts criticize the game's portrayal of these issues and the potential for players to become desensitized to them.

Show Notes

Building a bridge out of cash and money...


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