Brock, Boston & Kesley on Mormon taboos, surviving a plane crash, and waiting til marriage
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This podcast features twin brothers Brock and Boston, and Brock's wife Kesley, discussing their Utah upbringing, viral fame, and marriage. They delve into Utah culture, missionary experiences in Brazil and elsewhere, and the challenges of serving missions. The conversation touches on their family's harrowing plane crash survival, its impact on their lives, and their perspectives on faith, relationships, and life lessons. They also discuss misconceptions about the LDS Church, the Word of Wisdom, and their journey into content creation and entrepreneurship, including early real estate ventures and their YouTube channel origins. The episode concludes with discussions on marriage dynamics, twin telepathy, and the value of waiting until marriage for intimacy.
Outlines

Introduction and Early Life Experiences
The podcast introduces twin brothers Brock and Boston, and Brock's wife Kesley. They discuss their Utah upbringing, viral fame, and marriage. The conversation touches on Utah culture, including unique slang like "fetch," and contrasts living in Tennessee with farm animals versus suburban Utah. They also discuss their mother's haircuts and Brock's experience cutting his own hair.

Missionary Journeys and Encounters
Brock shares his mission experience in Brazil, which was cut short due to gallbladder issues, leading him to complete it in Boston. They role-play missionary encounters, discuss inviting people to church, and share anecdotes about the hospitality and kindness of people offering missionaries cookies. The location of mission homes and the process of missionary transfers are also discussed.

Mission Rules, Relationships, and Dating
The challenges and rules of serving a mission are discussed, emphasizing focus and dedication. The guests detail their relationship timeline, starting young, and how mission decisions impacted their plans. They also touch upon missionary DMs, cheesy pick-up lines, and the possibility of twins serving missions together, along with the assignment process.

LDS Beliefs and Misconceptions
The guests address common misconceptions about the LDS Church, clarifying beliefs about worshipping Jesus Christ and the significance of the "Mormon" nickname. They explain the Word of Wisdom, the LDS stance on coffee, and the origins and significance of the Book of Mormon, including the roles of Mormon and Moroni. They affirm their identity as Christians who believe in modern revelation.

Missionaries and Social Media Use
The use of social media by missionaries is discussed, clarifying that while direct scrolling is discouraged, faith-based content creation is encouraged. They detail strict rules regarding internet and social media use during missions, noting how Facebook was removed from some missions due to misuse. The impact of mission service on phone addiction and the desire to create rather than consume content are also explored.

Twin Dynamics and Childhood Interests
The hosts and guests explore the challenges of telling the twins apart, discussing subtle differences and how they sometimes confuse each other. The brothers discuss their differing childhood interests, with Brock leaning towards sports and Boston towards making money, while emphasizing their strong bond.

YouTube Beginnings and Love Story
A brief mention of breakdancing lessons leads into the origin story of their YouTube channel, sparked by a Q&A video. Kesley recounts meeting Brock, and how her mom's investigation led to a YouTube collaboration and their eventual relationship. They detail their relationship progression and their long history of creating content on YouTube.

Navigating Public Life and Marriage
The challenges of being in the public eye are discussed, including a relationship break being leaked on TikTok. They credit their parents' balanced approach for fostering strong, trusting adult relationships. The guests discuss their parents' support for their early marriage, noting that marrying young is common in Utah. The rapid engagement and wedding timeline are discussed, along with newlywed life adjustments.

The Family Plane Crash and its Aftermath
The guests discuss significant unplanned life events, focusing on their family's plane crash. They recount the terrifying experience, including the moments before impact, the pilot's actions, and the immediate aftermath. The decision-making process for landing, the critical role of an EMT, and the lingering fear of flying are detailed. Kesley shares her harrowing experience of hearing about the crash.

Life Lessons, Beliefs, and Mission Impact
The plane crash is discussed as a catalyst that brought Kesley and Brock closer. The profound impact of the crash is discussed, emphasizing the importance of appreciating each day and cherishing family. The guests clarify LDS beliefs about the afterlife and hell. Boston explains how his mission helped him overcome shyness and develop social skills. They share experiences of rejection during missionary service and discuss missionary attire and variations in mission work.

Entrepreneurship and Early Ventures
The twins discuss their achievement of buying and renovating a house at 17, driven by their interest in home DIY and real estate. Boston explains his initial hesitation about serving a mission and his eventual decision. They discuss being first-generation missionaries and Boston's assignment to Vancouver. Boston shares his brief corporate experience, contrasting it with his family's entrepreneurial background.

Dating Culture, Wedding Details, and Future Plans
Boston clarifies his single status and discusses Utah's unique dating culture. Brock explains the viral reaction to his Fortnite-themed wedding suit and shares details about unique wedding touches. The couple discusses their newlywed plans, focusing on travel and future children. The podcast concludes with a game called "Agree to Disagree."

Twin Telepathy and Marriage Dynamics
The podcast begins with a discussion about tasting coffee. The hosts explore the concept of twin telepathy between Brock and Boston, testing their abilities. Kesley shares her perspective on the twins and marriage dynamics. They delve into arguments within marriage, "rage baiting," and how marriage impacts the twin relationship. Wedding night expectations and the value of waiting until marriage for intimacy are also discussed.
Keywords
Twin Telepathy
The supposed ability of identical twins to communicate or sense each other's thoughts and feelings without using normal sensory channels.
Utah Culture
Utah culture is influenced by its significant population of members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS), impacting social norms, family values, and community activities.
Plane Crash Survival
Surviving a plane crash is a rare and traumatic event, involving the immediate aftermath, potential injuries, and the psychological impact.
Missionary Work
Missionary work involves individuals dedicating time to share their faith and serve communities worldwide, following specific rules and guidelines.
Word of Wisdom
The Word of Wisdom is a health code in LDS doctrine, advocating for abstaining from harmful substances and promoting healthy choices.
Book of Mormon
The Book of Mormon is a sacred text in The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, believed to be a record of ancient inhabitants of the Americas.
LDS Church (The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints)
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is a distinct Christian faith with unique doctrines and practices.
Home Renovation
Home renovation involves the process of improving or repairing a house, often involving structural changes and cosmetic updates.
Entrepreneurship
Entrepreneurship is the process of designing, launching, and running a new business, typically beginning as a small business.
Financial Literacy for Teens
Financial literacy for teens involves educating young individuals about managing money, saving, spending, and investing.
Q&A
What are some common misconceptions about The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?
A common misconception is that members worship Mormon or Joseph Smith. In reality, the church's official name emphasizes Jesus Christ, and while Joseph Smith translated the Book of Mormon, he is seen as a prophet, not a deity. The name "Mormon" is a nickname, and the church prefers its full title.
What is the significance of the "Word of Wisdom" in the LDS Church?
The Word of Wisdom is a health code that guides members on diet and lifestyle choices. It advises against consuming coffee, tea, alcohol, and tobacco, and promotes healthy eating habits. It's considered a commandment that promotes physical and spiritual well-being.
How did the family plane crash impact the guests' lives?
The plane crash profoundly impacted their lives, instilling a deep appreciation for each day and the importance of family. It provided a second chance at life, making their experiences more meaningful and reinforcing the need to cherish loved ones.
What are the rules for missionaries regarding social media and internet use?
Missionaries are generally prohibited from using social media platforms like TikTok and Instagram on their personal phones to maintain focus. While Facebook was once allowed, it was removed from some missions due to misuse. Creating faith-based content is encouraged, but excessive scrolling is discouraged.
Can identical twins serve missions together, and how are missions assigned?
While not explicitly forbidden, serving missions together is uncommon. Mission assignments are determined by church leaders through prayer and consideration of individual interests and language preferences. The Missionary Training Center (MTC) is where missionaries receive initial training and language instruction.
What are the LDS beliefs regarding the afterlife and the concept of hell?
The LDS Church believes in different kingdoms or levels of glory in the afterlife, with celestial glory being the highest. While hell exists, it is considered difficult to attain, as God desires all His children to eventually return to Him through repentance and the atonement of Jesus Christ.
How did the guests' parents influence their strong family relationships?
Their parents fostered trust and open communication, allowing them to share mistakes without fear of harsh judgment. This balanced approach, providing guidance while allowing for fun and independence, created a foundation for strong, supportive relationships as adults.
What was the experience of buying and renovating a house at a young age?
At 17, the twins bought and renovated a house, turning it into a valuable learning experience for real estate and DIY skills. This project provided school credit and practical knowledge, demonstrating their early entrepreneurial spirit and ability to manage significant projects.
What are the key differences between Utah and Tennessee culture, according to the guests?
Tennessee is described as having a slower pace of life with land and farm animals, while Utah offers a suburban lifestyle with close friends. The guests appreciate both for their distinct ways of life, finding different aspects appealing in each location.
How did the plane crash affect the guests' fear of flying?
Initially, the guests were fine with flying, but after about three months, the trauma resurfaced, causing significant anxiety. Their mother's reassurance and the necessity of flying helped them cope, but the fear remained a palpable consequence of the crash.
Do Brock and Boston have twin telepathy?
Brock and Boston believe they have a form of twin telepathy, citing instances where they finish each other's sentences or have similar thoughts simultaneously. They even tested this with a shape-guessing game, though results were mixed.
How does marriage affect the relationship between twins?
The hosts have differing views. Some believe the core relationship remains the same, just with less cohabitation. Others feel marriage fundamentally changes the dynamic, leading to personal growth and evolving connections.
Is the wedding night overhyped?
The hosts suggest that while some people hype up the wedding night, it can also be a more relaxed and chill experience. They acknowledge that individual experiences vary greatly.
Is waiting until marriage worth it?
The hosts agree that waiting until marriage is a special and worthwhile experience. They view it as a unique way to connect with a spouse and a meaningful gift to give.
Show Notes
This week, Brock and Boston Mikesell join Matt & Abby for an honest conversation about growing up viral, getting married young, and navigating life as twin brothers in the public eye. Brock shares what it was like marrying his high school sweetheart Kesley after a short engagement and how marriage shifts the twin dynamic.
We also play a hilariously Mormon coded game of Agree to Disagree.
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Chapters:
00:00 - Brock Boston & Kesley
05:30 - Mormon Missions
14:33 - What do people get wrong about Mormons?
18:34 - Mormon 101
25:35 - Kesley and Brock meet cute
28:22 - Growing up on Youtube
34:30 - Young marriage
39:09 - Our unplanned moment
51:57 - Surviving a plane crash changed our lives
1:00:50 - Buying a house at 17
1:03:02 - Boston's Mission
1:15:46 - Agree to Disagree
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