On the podcast, we talk with Ryan about the risk of ad creative concentration, how to reach older, high-value demographics, and why the ultimate KPI is revenue.

Key Takeaways:

🛠️ A unified roadmap eliminates silos - Operating with one shared roadmap ensures alignment across product, marketing, and engineering, promoting collaboration and agility.

💡 Monetization might require more than just subscriptions - Post-IDFA, blending subscriptions with ads and one-time purchases maximizes revenue and reaches non-subscribers.

📺 TV and radio ads still build trust - Older audiences trust TV more than digital ads. A diversified media mix and real-time tracking can make these channels highly effective.

📊 Creative testing prevents costly surprises - Diversifying creative assets across platforms reduces risk and ensures consistent ad performance, even when policies change.

🎯 Empathy boosts customer loyalty in niche markets - High-touch, personal responses to customer feedback—especially in sensitive sectors—can build trust and long-term loyalty.

About Guest 

👨‍💻 Co-founder and CTO at Pray.com — an app with a mission to grow faith, cultivate community, and leave a legacy of helping others through faith-based content and community-building features.

👥 Ryan Beck is driven by innovation in technology for the faith space, successfully navigating the complexities of building digital platforms that resonate with older, high-value demographics while maintaining exceptional retention rates.

💡 "We saw a space that was underserved, where technology could bridge the gap between faith organizations and their communities, making faith more accessible in the digital age.”

👋  LinkedIn

Resources

• Pray.com

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Episode Highlights:

[00:57 ] Digitizing faith: Pray.com’s mission to modernize faith organizations with digital platforms.
[02:49 ] Better together: The challenges and benefits of building a platform for diverse faiths with shared goals.
[04:47 ] Generation gap: Addressing tech adoption and user retention challenges with older demographics.
[06:47 ] Traditional values: How Pray.com used TV and radio ads to reach older, high-value users.
[09:16 ] Say your prayers: The devotional content that strengthened Pray.com’s user engagement and retention.
[11:52 ] Keeping the faith: Introducing subscription models without losing the trust of a faith-driven community.
[19:59 ] Lessons in diversification: The risks of relying too heavily on a single ad creative.
[31:08 ] Faith meets tech: Blending technology with spirituality to create accessible digital content for all.
[41:26 ] Data-driven decisions: How the Pray.com team optimized their TV and digital ad strategies for maximum impact.