Steve and Katie chat with Ash Atalla, CEO of Rough Cut TV and award-winning television producer who had success with shows like The Office and The IT Crowd. Ash shares his unconventional career journey from finance to television and how his business degree still helps him today. Listen and explore the balance between creativity and business, managing failure in an industry full of it, and the future of creative industries with the rise of AI.

Dr. Poornika Ananth provides her academic insight, delving into the crossover of roles creative leaders have and how to handle them.