Today on out of curiosity with kt mather, I circle back with my old friend Lisa Knight who was also with us for the episode about Chernobyl. On this episode, Lisa and I talk about the smash hit the queen’s gambit about a young woman crushing it in the male dominated world of competitive chess. Lisa and I talk about why she almost didn’t watch the show, what kind of porn it is, the ever-present threat of sexual assault, cool clothes, a couple of my favorite fiction tropes, and Lisa’s lasik eye surgery (don’t worry—not graphic). Correction: Forgot to note this in my intro, but at one point in the ep, I mention that this show was previously going to be made with "Ellen Page" as Beth. The ep was recorded before Elliot Page shared with the wider world that he is trans and his name is Elliot.