In her film Hanna Nobis created a character of unprecedented sensitivity and complexity. The figure of Antek, overcoming a difficult and unexpected - also for himself - path from right-wing conservatism to metropolitan liberalism, becomes a pretext for a conversation about building a system of values and the circumstances that may influence this process, the formation of maturity, loyalty, and solidarity towards a group of friends, family and, finally, towards oneself. The episode also focuses on the collaboration between the documentary filmmaker and the protagonist and the years-long process of building mutual trust. We also ask whether the director's private experiences influenced the direction of the film script or the highlighting of certain events.