Claire and Dan break down why COP 30 in Brazil is struggling, with low turnout, fading commitments, and growing influence from fossil fuel interests. They explain what this means for global climate cooperation and the challenges facing the next round of negotiations.

Claire and Dan also examine the reaction to Bill Gates' recent climate letter, clarifying what he actually argued and why many of his points about tradeoffs and green premiums are being misinterpreted. They highlight where renewable energy is already cheaper, and why the story is more hopeful than headlines suggest.

Dan shares examples from his work in Africa, including Kenya's progress on renewable power, and the hosts close with a realistic look at political setbacks and where meaningful progress is still happening.