Carlos shares his experiences in spiritual masses, getting spiritually mounted with his guide Francisco and his journey in developing his spiritual gifts. He discuses his nervousness and confidence during his first transmediumship possession and his encounter at Fort Mifflin. Carlos also talks about his early experiences with spirits and the guidance he received from his godfather. He explains the differences in mounting during a drumming and in Palo, and emphasizes the importance of listening to one's inner voice and following their instincts in spirituality. The conversation explores various aspects of spirituality and seeking guidance. It touches on cleansing the environment and the importance of finding the right person to help you. The power of transmediumship is also discussed, highlighting the impact of spiritual messages. The chapter concludes with a clip showcasing a spiritual mass experience.

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