Carman Jenkins

Carman Jenkins

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This podcast episode delves into the disturbing true crime story of McCall Harris's murder, orchestrated by Carmen and Clarence Jenkins. The narrative traces Carmen's life, her relationship with Clarence, and the formation of a thruple with Grace Davis. Driven by Clarence's manipulation and a desire for control, the couple plans and executes the murder of McCall Harris, followed by a gruesome dismemberment and disposal of the body. The investigation, spurred by the discovery of body parts and a threatening note, eventually leads to the arrests of Carmen and Clarence. Carmen accepts a plea deal, testifying against Clarence, who is ultimately sentenced to life in prison. The episode also touches on post-imprisonment lives, sentence reductions, and includes promotional segments for various businesses and services.

Outlines

00:00:00
Introduction and Holiday Business Tips

The podcast begins with a discussion about the holiday season and its potential to overwhelm business owners. It then transitions into a promotion for Shopify, highlighting its role in e-commerce and customer support.

00:01:03
The Slayer Rule and Life Insurance

The hosts introduce the "slayer rule" or "slayer statutes," legal provisions preventing murderers from inheriting from their victims' estates, particularly in relation to life insurance policies. SelectQuote is promoted as a life insurance provider.

00:02:14
The Case of Sisters Who Kill: Introduction and Key Players

The hosts introduce themselves and the podcast, "Sisters Who Kill," setting the stage for the true crime story. They introduce the main individuals involved: McCall Harris (victim), Grace Davis (accomplice), Clarence Jenkins Jr. (accomplice), and Carmen Jenkins (murderer).

00:03:20
Carmen Jenkins' Life and Relationship with Clarence

Carmen Jenkins' upbringing and aspirations are detailed, including her decision to drop out of college to care for her sick mother. Clarence Jenkins Jr.'s troubled background is presented, and he begins a relationship with Carmen, which deepens into romance. Despite family doubts, they marry, and Clarence becomes more motivated.

00:11:54
Introduction of McCall Harris, Grace Davis, and the Thruple

Clarence meets McCall Harris at a temp agency. Grace Davis, fleeing an abusive relationship, moves in with Carmen and Clarence. Clarence is arrested, and during his absence, Carmen and Grace begin a relationship, forming a thruple upon his release.

00:15:46
CPS Intervention, Grace's Departure, and the Murder Plot

CPS intervenes, leading to Grace's children being removed, prompting her to leave Carmen and Clarence. Clarence, enraged by Grace's departure, devises a plan to kill someone to prove their seriousness, identifying McCall Harris as the victim.

00:21:01
The Murder, Dismemberment, and Disposal of McCall Harris

Despite Carmen's hesitation, Clarence insists on killing McCall Harris, strangling her in their trailer. They then attempt to dismember her body, burning the remains at Parris Mountain and disposing of body parts to threaten Grace.

00:31:51
Discovery of Evidence and Investigation

The discovery of body parts and a threatening note leads to a police investigation. Evidence from the trailer, including blood matching McCall's DNA and drafts of wedding vows, is found.

00:49:30
Arrests, Plea Deals, and Sentencing

Clarence and Carmen are arrested. Carmen accepts a plea deal, pleading guilty to murder in exchange for a reduced sentence and cooperation. Clarence's trial results in a conviction for murder and kidnapping, leading to a life sentence.

01:02:56
Post-Imprisonment Lives and Sentence Adjustments

The episode discusses Clarence's disciplinary issues in prison and Carmen's pursuit of educational certificates. Carmen's sentence is later reduced, impacting her release date.

01:06:02
Hypothetical Scenarios and Crime Scene Advice

Humorous and dramatic reenactments explore crime scenarios, focusing on evidence cleanup and avoiding detection. Advice is given on cleaning crime scenes *before* the crime.

01:07:35
Relationship Dynamics and Finding Grace

Discussions touch on financial strain, relationship demands, and the importance of maintaining contact with Grace. The need to avoid distractions and focus on personal goals is highlighted.

01:08:57
Grace's Departure and Sentence Reduction Discussion

Grace's departure is discussed, with speculation about her concerns. Carmen's sentence reduction is framed as a "pre-pearl" opportunity, and the challenges of re-entering the workforce at an older age are explored.

01:10:22
Podcast Promotion and Listener Engagement

Listeners are encouraged to support Black-owned businesses, leave reviews, and share the podcast. Promotional segments include Storm and Shelter for spiritual guidance and a special offer for listeners.

01:12:16
Listener Appreciation and Social Media Engagement

Positive listener reviews are shared, comparing the show to "The Boondocks." Social media handles and community engagement platforms like Facebook groups and Patreon are promoted.

01:13:57
Patreon Content and Quince Holiday Promotion

Exclusive Patreon content and merchandise are highlighted. Quince is promoted as a brand offering comfortable and timeless clothing essentials for holiday gifting, with a special offer.

Keywords

Slayer Rule


Legal provisions preventing murderers from inheriting from their victims' estates or benefiting from their assets, such as life insurance policies.

Shopify


An e-commerce platform that enables businesses to create online stores and sell products, offering tools for website building, marketing, sales, and customer support.

SelectQuote


An insurance broker that helps individuals find and compare life insurance policies from multiple companies, emphasizing cost savings.

Thruple


A romantic relationship involving three people, referring to the relationship between Carmen, Clarence, and Grace in this case.

CPS (Child Protective Services)


A government agency responsible for protecting children from abuse and neglect, whose involvement in the case led to the removal of Grace's children.

Demand Letter


A formal letter making a specific demand, often with a threat of consequences if the demand is not met, used here to pressure Grace Davis.

Dismemberment


The act of cutting off the limbs of a body, a gruesome act performed on McCall Harris's body by Clarence and Carmen.

Homicide Investigation


A criminal investigation into a death caused by another person, focusing on the circumstances surrounding McCall Harris's presumed death.

Sentence Reduction


The act of decreasing the length of a prison sentence, applicable to both Carmen and Clarence in this case due to plea deals and legal proceedings.

Crime Scene Cleanup


The process of decontaminating and restoring a location where a crime has occurred, with advice given on proactive cleaning.

Spiritual Exhaustion


A state of depletion resulting from intense spiritual practices or emotional burdens, addressed in the context of self-care and personal growth.

True Crime Storytelling


The narrative art of recounting real criminal events, a genre exemplified by the "Sisters Who Kill" podcast.

Q&A

  • What is the "slayer rule" and how does it relate to life insurance?

    The slayer rule prevents murderers from inheriting from their victims' estates or benefiting from assets like life insurance policies, ensuring they don't profit from their crimes.

  • How did Carmen Jenkins' life change after her mother fell ill?

    Carmen had to drop out of college to care for her mother, altering her academic and career plans.

  • What led to Grace Davis moving in with Carmen and Clarence?

    Grace was fleeing an abusive relationship and needed a place to stay, so Carmen and Clarence offered her room and board.

  • How did Clarence Jenkins Jr. attempt to pressure Grace Davis to return?

    Clarence wrote a demand letter threatening Grace and her children if she didn't return or pay $10,000.

  • Why was McCall Harris chosen as the victim?

    Clarence believed McCall Harris's lifestyle meant she might not be missed or actively searched for, making her an easy target.

  • What evidence did police find in Clarence and Carmen's trailer?

    Police found blood matching McCall's DNA, drafts of wedding vows between Clarence, Carmen, and Grace, and various weapons.

  • What was Carmen's plea deal and sentence?

    Carmen pleaded guilty to murder in exchange for a reduced sentence and cooperation, initially receiving 50 years, later reduced to 40.

  • What was Clarence Jenkins Jr.'s sentence and defense strategy?

    Clarence was sentenced to life without parole for murder and kidnapping. His defense questioned the definitive proof of his direct involvement.

  • What is the main advice given regarding crime scene cleanup?

    It's easier and more effective to clean the crime scene *before* the crime occurs.

  • What is Storm and Shelter, and who created it?

    Storm and Shelter is a spiritual space created by Zena, offering guided growth and intuitive coaching for individuals.

  • What is the special offer for "Sisters Who Kill" listeners from Storm and Shelter?

    Listeners receive a 50% discount on a "soul story session" by mentioning "Sisters Who Kill."

  • How can listeners support the podcast "Sisters Who Kill"?

    Listeners can support the show by leaving reviews, sharing it with friends, joining their Facebook group, and supporting them on Patreon.

Show Notes

Do you love me, or do you love her?;=


PLAYERS:Mekole Harris - Victim


Grace Davis - Carman and Clarence's girlfriend


Clarence Jenkins Jr. - Carman's Husband/ Accomplice


Carman Jenkins - Murderess




WHEN:2008




WHERE:Greenville, South Carolina


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