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Case 295: Nadia Kajouji & Mark Drybrough

Case 295: Nadia Kajouji & Mark Drybrough

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This podcast delves into the disturbing story of William Mulcher Dinkel, a nurse who used online forums to prey on vulnerable individuals struggling with suicidal thoughts. The story begins with Celia Blay, a retired teacher who discovered a forum called alt.suicide.holiday (Ash) and was shocked by the discussions about suicide. She began posting on the forum, offering support and encouragement, but soon encountered the dark side of the internet. The podcast then focuses on the tragic cases of Mark Dribrar and Naja Kajujee, two individuals who took their own lives after being contacted by Dinkel, who used aliases like Lee Dow and Cammie D. Dinkel provided detailed instructions on how to commit suicide and even made suicide pacts with his victims. Celia Blay, disturbed by these events, began investigating Dinkel's online activity and discovered his pattern of manipulation and exploitation. She contacted other forum members who had been contacted by Dinkel and alerted authorities to his actions. Dinkel was eventually arrested and charged with two counts of advising, encouraging, or assisting suicide. While his conviction was later reversed, he was ultimately found guilty of assisting Mark Dribrar's suicide and attempting to assist Naja Kajujee's suicide. The podcast highlights the dangers of online predators and the importance of suicide prevention. It debunks common myths about suicide, emphasizing that it is preventable and that individuals struggling with suicidal thoughts should seek help.

Outlines

00:01:22
The Dark Side of Online Forums

Celia Blay, a retired teacher, discovers the alt.suicide.holiday (Ash) forum and is shocked by the discussions about suicide. She begins posting on the forum, offering support, but soon encounters the dark side of the internet.

00:19:30
The Victims of Lee Dow

The podcast explores the tragic cases of Mark Dribrar and Naja Kajujee, two individuals who took their own lives after being contacted by William Mulcher Dinkel, who used the alias Lee Dow. Dinkel provided detailed instructions on how to commit suicide and even made suicide pacts with his victims.

00:33:23
Celia's Investigation

Celia Blay, disturbed by the suicide pact between Anna and Lee Dow, begins investigating Lee Dow's online activity. She discovers that Lee Dow is a serial predator who has been encouraging vulnerable people to take their own lives. Celia contacts other forum members who had been contacted by Lee Dow and alerts authorities to his actions.

00:43:05
William Mulcher Dinkel

Celia Blay's investigation leads her to William Mulcher Dinkel, a nurse who has been using multiple aliases to encourage people to commit suicide. He admits to having conversations with dozens of people about suicide and to having made suicide pacts with at least 10 individuals. He is eventually arrested and charged with two counts of advising, encouraging, or assisting suicide.

00:52:40
The Aftermath

The podcast discusses the aftermath of William Mulcher Dinkel's arrest and trial. While his conviction was later reversed, he was ultimately found guilty of assisting Mark Dribrar's suicide and attempting to assist Naja Kajujee's suicide. The podcast highlights the dangers of online predators and the importance of suicide prevention.

Keywords

alt.suicide.holiday (Ash)


An online forum dedicated to discussions about suicide. It was a place where individuals struggling with suicidal thoughts could connect with others, share their experiences, and seek support.

Suicide Pact


An agreement between two or more individuals to take their own lives together. This can be a dangerous and harmful practice, as it can lead to individuals feeling pressured or obligated to follow through with their plans.

Online Predator


An individual who uses the internet to target vulnerable people, often for sexual exploitation or other harmful purposes. In this case, William Mulcher Dinkel used the internet to prey on individuals struggling with suicidal thoughts, encouraging them to take their own lives.

Cyberbullying


Bullying that takes place online, often through social media, text messages, or email. It can involve harassment, threats, or spreading rumors. In this case, William Mulcher Dinkel's actions could be considered a form of cyberbullying, as he used the internet to manipulate and harm vulnerable individuals.

Mental Health Crisis


A period of intense emotional distress or instability that can lead to suicidal thoughts or behaviors. It is important to seek help from mental health professionals during a mental health crisis.

Suicide Prevention


Efforts to reduce the number of suicides and suicide attempts. This can involve providing support and resources to individuals at risk, raising awareness about mental health issues, and reducing stigma associated with seeking help.

Q&A

  • What was the name of the online forum where Celia Blay discovered discussions about suicide?

    The forum was called alt.suicide.holiday, also known as Ash.

  • What was the name of the individual who was using multiple aliases to encourage people to commit suicide?

    The individual was William Mulcher Dinkel, a nurse who lived in Minnesota.

  • What were some of the aliases that William Mulcher Dinkel used?

    He used aliases such as Lee Dow, Falcon Girl, and Cammie D.

  • What was the outcome of William Mulcher Dinkel's trial?

    He was initially convicted of two counts of advising, encouraging, or assisting suicide, but his conviction was later reversed by the Minnesota Supreme Court. He was later found guilty of assisting Mark Dribrar's suicide and attempting to assist Naja Kajujee's suicide.

  • What are some of the myths about suicide that the podcast debunks?

    The podcast debunks the myths that suicide can't be prevented, that people who talk about it are simply seeking attention, and that suicides are rarely impulsive.

Show Notes


*** Content warnings: Suicide, self-harm, pregnancy loss ***

When retired schoolteacher Celia Blay stumbled across an online forum where suicidal individuals shared their innermost thoughts, she had no idea that she was about to encounter a serial predator. Li Dao was a young nurse who trawled the forum, looking for people to push over the edge. She encouraged other posters to take their own lives and gave explicit instructions. As members of the forum started to disappear, Celia Blay became determined to uncover Li Dao’s true identity and put a stop to her crimes. But nothing about Li Dao was as it seemed…



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Narration – Anonymous Host

Research & writing – Erin Munro

Creative direction – Milly Raso

Production and music – Mike Migas

Music – Andrew D.B. Joslyn



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Comments (2)

ronak serry

I liked Celia's actions, she felt responsible about people who barely knew.

Sep 11th
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G DeA

Cecelia is a hero. I can't believe how determined she was, despite the many hurdles and setbacks she had to overcome.

Sep 9th
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