Today's guest is Rep. Chip Roy (R–Texas), a fiscal hawk whose commitment to balancing the budget has led President Donald Trump to call for primary challenges against him.

Nick Gillespie sits down with Roy to talk about why he ultimately voted for the president's budget-busting One Big Beautiful Bill Act (OBBBA), whether the controversial redistricting plan going on in Texas is legit, the expansion of the federal government under both major parties, and where libertarians and conservatives can work together to reduce the size, scope, and spending of the state.

0:00 —Intro

0:41 —Why we must control government spending

4:20 —The OBBBA and the national debt

6:30 —Facing off with Trump

9:25 —The Federal Reserve's existence and independence

11:00 —Reforming the health care system

14:21 —Victories from the OBBBA

19:16 —The influence of Ron Paul

24:51 —Immigration, labor, and assimilation

35:17 —Is there a new GOP consensus on foreign policy?

41:50 —Texas redistricting

44:28 —Cultural identity of Texas

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